[BFix] FW: The new Socialism!
Jack Covert
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Sun Apr 27 18:40:33 MST 2008
I axed my dad what My-Lia was and he sayed that she wus won of his most favoritests strippers in Vietnam.
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----- Original Message ----
From: Stephen Urban <sfu at roadrunner.com>
Cc: mail at broncofix.com
Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 6:29:22 PM
Subject: Re: [BFix] FW: The new Socialism!
I w i l l t y p e e x t r a s l o w f o r y o u o n t h i s
since you apparently missed my blatant change of direction to follow
your own shift. I never used My-Lai as an example to justify
insurrection. If you would have spent a little more time actually
reading what I wrote and less time looking for hidden meanings while
trying to find some way to work your big words into the conversation you
would have easily seen that. Your statement to that effect that I had,
is an example of that while you might be able to look up big words in
the dictionary to sprinkle into your conversations, you apparently lack
the ability to follow the subtle shifts in the same conversations.
Either that or you simply wanted to put words in my mouth to suit your
own purposes. Hard to tell from this end and I will happily withdraw
which ever comment isn't applicable.
The My-Lai reference was wholly in reply to your
salute-the-rank-not-the-man comment where you inferred that
office-holding somehow elevated the politician to the level of the
Constitution and provided him with the same level of loyalty. My-Lai
was used to show that an officer (or office holder as per the general
thrust of this discussion) only rates and receives the
loyalty/protection of the rank as long as they uphold their own sworn
responsibilities. The office itself provides no shield (actual or
implied) to the office holder that would allow them to be released from
liability for violating their oath.
The comment had nothing to do with any of the other items you
mentioned. Plain enough for you now? As I said this is turning into a
colossal bore so now that I have answered your apparently final burning
question it should end.
Steve Urban
Semper Fi!
SCB#143
EBR#0692
CA4WDC#3576
NRA & CRPA Life Member
29 Palms, CA
sfu at roadrunner.com
Formerjughead at aol.com wrote:
> I am still waiting for your explanation of using the My-Lai massacre
> as justification for armed insurrection and what the corollary is to
> the American Revolution and the first two amendments of the Constitution.
>
> I can figure out how the 1st, 5 th and 8 th fit into the argument ;
> however, the 2nd doesn't appear to be germane.
>
> In a message dated 4/27/2008 1:46:31 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> sfu at roadrunner.com writes:
>
> This has become a boring waste of time. Your replies are
> continuing to
> deviate ever farther from the original discussion and have
> degenerated
> into pathetic attempts at belittlement and an argument over
> whether or
> not a word (that even the publishers of a dictionary recognize)
> exists.
> I will let you return to your solo drinking and perusal of the
> dictionary in search of those "big" words to insert in your
> conversations.
>
> Formerjughead at aol.com wrote:
> >
> > I admitted to missing the point you were making in the reference to
> > "Mi-Lia" (My-Lai) so please enlighten me.
> >
> > Just because a word has been in use for 80 odd years doesn't
> mean that
> > it is proper or generally accepted. Again you have glossed over the
> > facts and extracted what you need to vindicate your point.
> >
> > I never said that the word didn't exist. The most frequently
> repeated
> > remark, by usage commentators, is that it does not exist. The
> > publishers of the "Mirriam- Webster Dictionary" go on to say
> that even
> > though the word does exist "it is far from general acceptance"
> and the
> > word "regardless" should be used instead.
> >
> > You really don't spend much time reading anything more than news
> > papers and magazines do you?
> >
> > Quixotically waiting
> >
> > In a message dated 4/27/2008 11:50:25 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> > sfu at roadrunner.com writes:
> >
> > Proved my previous comment and then some. I see you found your
> > dictionary again as well. If you would have raised your
> head from
> > the
> > keyboard during your haste to correct my spelling, you would
> have
> > felt
> > the breeze as the point passed by just over your head. I
> guess I
> > didn't
> > type it slow enough for you.
> >
> > ""there is no such word." There is such a word..."
> Spoken in true
> > double-speak fashion. Your given reference acknowledges
> that it has
> > been in use for at least 80 years but it doesn't exist according
> > to you.
> >
> >
> > Steve Urban
> > Semper Fi!
> > SCB#143
> > EBR#0692
> > CA4WDC#3576
> > NRA & CRPA Life Member
> > 29 Palms, CA
> > sfu at roadrunner.com
> >
> > Formerjughead at aol.com wrote:
> > > "My-Lia" rings no bells. It does look to be a dyslexic
> > bastardization
> > > of "My-Lai" though. If you are using that as an argument, in
> > support
> > > of your opinion, then you realize that Lt. William Calley was
> > > convicted of ordering the murder of 128 persons and was
> > sentenced to
> > > life in prison. The sentence was later re-adjusted so that
> > Calley only
> > > served 4 1/2 months in Leavenworth. The other 26 people, in
> > Calley's
> > > chain of command or otherwise associated with the
> massacre, were
> > > either found not guilty or acquitted.
> > >
> > > Calley's sentence was reduced, on appeal, because he felt that
> > he was
> > > following the intent of the orders given to him by his Company
> > > Commander Capt. Ernest Medina.
> > >
> > > So maybe you are going to tell me about how the excuse of
> "Just
> > > following orders" does not excuse someone from committing war
> > crimes.
> > > The precedent that was set forth at the Nuremberg and
> Tokyo War
> > Crimes
> > > Tribunals.
> > >
> > > So I guess I don't see the logic or I don't know what you are
> > talking
> > > about.
> > >
> > > The transcripts of the Calley Court Martial are available
> > through the
> > > Freedom of Information Act and can be viewed in the electronic
> > reading
> > > room of the FBI's web site.
> > >
> > > ps.
> > >
> > > *Main Entry:* ir·re·gard·less
> > > *Function:* /adverb/
> > > *Pronunciation:* "ir-i-'gärd-l&s
> > > *Etymology:* probably blend of /irrespective /and /regardless/
> > > *:* *REGARDLESS * <javascript:lookWord('regardless');>
> > > *usage */Irregardless /originated in dialectal American speech
> > in the
> > > early 20th century. Its fairly widespread use in speech called
> > it to
> > > the attention of usage commentators as early as 1927. The most
> > > frequently repeated remark about it is that "there is no such
> > word."
> > > There is such a word, however. It is still used primarily in
> > speech,
> > > although it can be found from time to time in edited
> prose. Its
> > > reputation has not risen over the years, and it is still a
> long way
> > > from general acceptance. Use /regardless /instead.
> > >
> > > Just because you can say it and write it doesn't make it a
> word.
> > >
> > > Brad
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > In a message dated 4/26/2008 6:41:09 P.M. Pacific Daylight
> Time,
> > > sfu at roadrunner.com writes:
> > >
> > > Yes I am aware of "saluting-the-rank-not-the-man" but I am
> > also aware
> > > that the rank doesn't protect the man if he fails to
> live up
> > to it
> > > My-Lia ring any bells? As I stated before you would have
> > made a very
> > > nice Tory lap dog and there really isn't much point to
> this
> > anymore
> > > since you seem to be able to carry on both sides of
> the argument
> > > irregardless of my actual input.
> > >
> > > Good night, and good luck.
> > >
> > > Steve Urban
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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