[BFix] SMOG Test

Mon Apr 28 15:23:01 MST 2008

Yep you understand that correctly.

Ben

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Sent: 4/28/2008 5:11:33 PM 
Subject: Re: [BFix] SMOG Test

So, if I understand this correctly, the more money you have the more you can pollute?  And the more "credits" you buy (because you have more money than the poor guys like us) the more you can convince yourself that you are really doing good to the environment and the economy because you are buying "credits" and spending money in the process!  WOW what a system we have!  Some how this system makes him MORE of a hypocrite than I originally thought he was because he knows he is the environment and instead of going "green" (as he demands from everyone but himself) he buys more credits so he can do more harm.  And all this time I thought my Christian Conservative, ANTI gun control, pro life, Republican beliefs were sensible, now I know why they are.   

Ron

In a message dated 4/28/2008 4:16:29 P.M. Central Daylight Time, bfranklinisg at earthlink.net writes:
Gore, participates in a system where by he buys CO2 credits to off set his personal carbon footprint. Supposedly the organization he contributes money to, plants trees and such that absorb CO2 and that cleans up the air and apparently absolves Gore of all wrong doing. So pollute all you want to, just make sure you are wealthy enough to cover you ass and make it look like you are doing something right.  Oh yeah I beleive he has a part interest in one or several of these carbon trading companies. Makes sense that he then makes sure we are all going to hell over CO2 gas, the more we buy in to the idea the richer he gets. Forgive the approximate numbers but I have read that before global warming his family was worth around 5 Mil, now he is worth around 25 mil. Apparently business is good.

Ben

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To: TonyNokes at Freightliner.com 
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Sent: 4/28/2008 3:55:11 PM 
Subject: Re: [BFix] SMOG Test

I agree about the part of wanting a good place for my 4 daughters to live in the future.  But, I personally do not believe in the "global warming myth" that is out there and I sure don't buy into anything Al (Mr Hypocrite) Gore has to say.  He rates right up there with Rosie O'Donnell and Michael Moore with their opinions on gun control  and the war on terror.  His (Gores) house produces more pollution and green house gases in a day than everything I own does in a year.  Not to mention his private jet and all the huge SUV's that his security uses everyday to protect him, do they get tested the same as regular tax payers like you and I or do they get some type of immunity?   If the earth is falling into the global warming as he says then why have the temps dropped across the earth?  Why are we having snow storms at the end of April?  Why are we having "storms of the century" happening?  Why are only the scientists that agree with him interviewed but not the ones who disagree?  If you believe in the global warming I have no problem at all with that, then let's just agree we disagree.  I know I will bombed with emails saying how wrong I am and all that but, it is my right to feel and believe what I wish, the same as it is yours to do the same.  I just cleared out all my old mail preparing for the bombing.

Ron
74 trying to get it back together before it rusts apart
78 2nd owner and totally stock

In a message dated 4/28/2008 3:33:58 P.M. Central Daylight Time, TonyNokes at Freightliner.com writes:
It serves a very good purpose when administered correctly.  These tests help ensure air quality. The requirements vary by county and region due to varying local air qualities.  The EPA requires certain standards met on a national basis and it is up to the local governments on how they choose to meet those standards. In the Portland area when have an attainment zone that requires the "smog" checks and seasonally reformulated fuels.

To put it simply:  NOX is a green house gas, HC is unburned fuel, neither of which you want in the air you breath.

My 66' doesn't have to be tested because of it's age, but I took it through anyway just to see how it was running. They tested it for free, and it "passed" whatever standard they were using. 

I recommend that everyone watch the "Inconvenient truth" no matter what you think of Al (invented the Internet) Gore as it is actually very well done.  I felt the documentary/movie really helps put the global warming issue into perspective.  
I personally would like this planet to be a nice place to live for my daughter!

Tony

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From: bfix-bounces at broncofix.com [mailto:bfix-bounces at broncofix.com] On Behalf Of Shehatesmybronco at aol.com
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 12:21 PM
To: ironbenderii at yahoo.com
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Subject: Re: [BFix] SMOG Test

Can anybody tell me why they even do it at all?  Oh wait, it's just another way to get their fingers into your piece of the pie.  I am so glad we have nothing like that here in Florida.  I had to deal with it in Washington and it made absolutely no sense why only certain counties were required to do emissions testing.  When we lived in Tacoma, we bought a 1999 Expedition (dealer demo) that had less than 6k miles on it that failed emissions when I went to get it registered.  The dealership couldn't find anything wrong with it and we tried it again at another testing facility and it passed with no problems.  My 79 bronco smoked at idle and passed the first try without any troubles.  It is a poorly designed manipulative system that serves no purpose except to cost the tax payers excessive money to repair the vehicles that don't pass at "State Emissions Repair facilities"and hold them "hostage" by not allowing the vehicles on the road until it's repaired or gets a waiver.  My diesel didn't even have to be tested at all at the time.  I am not sure how it works now since I have been gone from there for about 5 years, but it was a crooked system when I was there.  It's politicians getting laws passed that really don't serve a purpose except for their special interest group.  It's no different than the vehicle inspection stickers that some places require.

Ok I am off my engine block again now that I have said my 2 cents worth.

Ron
74 trying to get it back together before it rusts apart
78 2nd owner and totally stock

In a message dated 4/28/2008 1:42:39 P.M. Central Daylight Time, ironbenderii at yahoo.com writes:
Can anybody tell me why they check all this crap?  Shouldn't they be concerned w/ the displacement of the motor and what comes out of the tailpipe?  Who cares what else you do to the motor as long as what comes out of the tail pipe is okay...

Thought I'd throw this out since the political debate seems to be winding down...

Jack

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