From hucklburrybronco at sbcglobal.net Fri May 9 03:57:12 2008 From: hucklburrybronco at sbcglobal.net (Jim Lemanek) Date: Fri May 9 03:57:18 2008 Subject: [BFix] palooza In-Reply-To: <380-220085590100453@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <845437.64887.qm@web81107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I was just gonna try and sell some larger parts, no takers, so I didn't head up. Sold some local though. Spent quality time with the family and got some stuff done in the garage. --Jim "bfranklinisg@earthlink.net" wrote: .hmmessage P { PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; MARGIN: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px } BODY.hmmessage { FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma } I thought Lemanek was going to be there? Ben ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Lang To: mail@broncofix.com Sent: 5/8/2008 6:42:39 PM Subject: Re: [BFix] OT: want to trade for dual sport bike No MOEB folks at Howiepalousa? Whats up? I didnt bring my ride, as I went to just judge. I did happen to see Chuck there ,but didnt have a chance to say hi. TomL ----- Original Message ----- From: penny schmittgens To: bfranklinisg@earthlink.net ; jimcole@cageoffroad.com ; mail@broncofix.com Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 5:21 PM Subject: RE: [BFix] OT: want to trade for dual sport bike Ben,it makes no cents to me! My son-in-law set up my new computer and he's in the sandbox right now, I'll have him fix it when he gets back. In the mean time Penny's name will just have to do. Steve (AKA SINGLE CENT) --------------------------------- From: bfranklinisg@earthlink.net To: aws@msn.com; jimcole@cageoffroad.com; mail@broncofix.com Subject: RE: [BFix] OT: want to trade for dual sport bike Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 15:53:23 -0500 .ExternalClass .EC_hmmessage P {padding:0px;} .ExternalClass body.EC_hmmessage {font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma;} When did you start going by Penny? Ben ----- Original Message ----- From: penny schmittgens To: jimcole@cageoffroad.com;mail@broncofix.com Sent: 5/8/2008 3:49:51 PM Subject: RE: [BFix] OT: want to trade for dual sport bike Jim, how about a HONDA TRAIL 50! LOL Steve aws@msn.com --------------------------------- From: jimcole@cageoffroad.com To: mail@broncofix.com Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 10:57:34 -0700 CC: Subject: [BFix] OT: want to trade for dual sport bike .ExternalClass p.EC_MsoNormal, .ExternalClass li.EC_MsoNormal, .ExternalClass div.EC_MsoNormal {margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:'Calibri','sans-serif';} .ExternalClass a:link, .ExternalClass span.EC_MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;} .ExternalClass a:visited, .ExternalClass span.EC_MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple;text-decoration:underline;} .ExternalClass p.EC_MsoPlainText, .ExternalClass li.EC_MsoPlainText, .ExternalClass div.EC_MsoPlainText {margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;} .ExternalClass span.EC_EmailStyle17 {font-family:'Calibri','sans-serif';color:windowtext;} .ExternalClass span.EC_PlainTextChar {font-family:Consolas;} .ExternalClass .EC_MsoChpDefault {;} @page Section1 {size:8.5in 11.0in;} .ExternalClass div.EC_Section1 {page:Section1;} Looks like Joe and I are thinking alike. I'm looking to do some trading for a 4 stroke dual sport bike. I'd prefer the Kawi KLR650 or a Honda XR650L but would consider most any bike of other makes/sizes. Must be electric start. Just want a strong runner and could care less how it looks as long as it works well and is street legal. It will mostly get used for getting to and from a particular hunting spot. Price roughly in the $1500-2000 range but if you have something cheaper that needs work I might consider it too. If anyone has one and wants to do some trading for our suspension items or fab work let me know. Keep in mind we are in St.Helens Oregon. Happy wheelin? Jim Cole CAGE Offroad Products 866-587-CAGE --------------------------------- _______________________________________________ bfix mailing list bfix@broncofix.com http://broncofix.com/mailman/listinfo/bfix _______________________________________________ bfix mailing list bfix@broncofix.com http://broncofix.com/mailman/listinfo/bfix -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.broncofix.com/pipermail/bfix/attachments/20080509/ddc01984/attachment.html From roger at broncohorde.com Fri May 9 06:16:19 2008 From: roger at broncohorde.com (Roger) Date: Fri May 9 06:18:27 2008 Subject: [BFix] AZ guys In-Reply-To: <380-220085591277828@earthlink.net> References: <380-220085591277828@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <006e01c8b1d6$dec46630$9c4d3290$@com> I've had owner bottles for years. I bought a new one once and have never seen it since the first exchange. They should be stamped with a code number that designates that it is not a company bottle for rent but a private owner bottle. You just exchange them for another. They take care of the the required DOT testing and hydrostatic pressure tests. You always get a legal bottle. I get a lot of gas :) from the local NAPA on Saturdays, that's when you always run out. You never get a rental charge you just pay for the gas because you already contributed a bottle to the owner pool. Common practice everywhere I've heard of. -----Original Message----- From: bfix-bounces@broncofix.com [mailto:bfix-bounces@broncofix.com] On Behalf Of bfranklinisg@earthlink.net Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 6:27 PM To: Mike Bowlin; BroncoGuys Subject: RE: [BFix] AZ guys I have what they call lifetime tanks for cutting torch and I can't find anyone locally that will fill them. They all want me to give them my tanks and then lease or buy new ones. Its a bunch of BS! Ben > [Original Message] > From: Mike Bowlin > To: BroncoGuys > Date: 5/8/2008 8:07:50 PM > Subject: [BFix] AZ guys > > Hey guys I ran my TIG out of cover gas and now I am wondering if the tanks > that I purchased outright in CO are gonna fly here in AZ? Anyone have any > experience with these matters? > > _______________________________________________ > bfix mailing list > bfix@broncofix.com > http://broncofix.com/mailman/listinfo/bfix _______________________________________________ bfix mailing list bfix@broncofix.com http://broncofix.com/mailman/listinfo/bfix From m1ckey3 at hotmail.com Fri May 9 10:34:42 2008 From: m1ckey3 at hotmail.com (Hot Wheels) Date: Fri May 9 10:34:38 2008 Subject: [BFix] Crank Pulley Question Message-ID: Hey all, Got a dumb crank pulley question for ya. When Eric N (gotta love that guy..he's everywhere..and always there when u need him) and I assembled my 351w we used steel pulleys and no split washers on the crank pulley. Now that I'm putting the WildHorses hard anodized aluminum ones on I'm asking my self if there should be a lock washers on the crank pulley? thanks for the input,MickThis e-mail is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18U.S.C. '' 2510-2521 and is legally privileged. The information contained inthis e-mail is intended only for use of the individual or entity namedabove. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or theemployee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient,please destroy the email after advising by reply that you erroneouslyreceived this. The receipt by anyone other than the designated recipientdoes not waive the attorney-client privilege, nor will it constitute awaiver of the work-product doctrine. _________________________________________________________________ With Windows Live for mobile, your contacts travel with you. http://www.windowslive.com/mobile/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_mobile_052008 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.broncofix.com/pipermail/bfix/attachments/20080509/d3a29099/attachment.html From ironbenderii at yahoo.com Fri May 9 10:42:46 2008 From: ironbenderii at yahoo.com (Jack Covert) Date: Fri May 9 10:42:43 2008 Subject: [BFix] Crank Pulley Question Message-ID: <121222.68955.qm@web51011.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Generally speaking I don't like lock washers.? They split and leave you with a very loose bolt.? That's just me though.? How about safety wire?? :) Jack ? www.ironbender.com ? 96 Radio Flyer Heavy duty full width front & rear axles 6 point roll cage 71 Bronco Sport 408 Strrrrrrrrrrrrrroker 435/Atlas Full width 60's 3.5" of lift 4 link front, full hydro and 14" SAW coilovers ELK GROVE, CA! ----- Original Message ---- From: Hot Wheels To: bronco fix Sent: Friday, May 9, 2008 10:34:42 AM Subject: [BFix] Crank Pulley Question Hey all, ? Got a dumb crank pulley question for ya.? When Eric N (gotta love that guy..he's everywhere..and always there when u need him) and I assembled my 351w we used steel pulleys and no split washers on the crank pulley.? Now that I'm putting the WildHorses hard anodized aluminum ones on I'm asking my self if there should be a lock washers on the crank pulley? ? thanks for the input, Mick This e-mail is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. '' 2510-2521 and is legally privileged. 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URL: http://www.broncofix.com/pipermail/bfix/attachments/20080509/3eb52e65/attachment.html From Crazyhorse at foottit.us Fri May 9 10:47:20 2008 From: Crazyhorse at foottit.us (John Foottit) Date: Fri May 9 10:47:21 2008 Subject: [BFix] Crank Pulley Question In-Reply-To: <121222.68955.qm@web51011.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <008f01c8b1fc$bdaa51f0$6600a8c0@JOHN> I prefer either serrated head fasteners, safety wire, or star washers in that application. You NEVER want to use a standard split lock washer on aluminum, it will destroy the face of the aluminum the first timwe you take it loose. John Foottit Martinez, CA 70 EB SEFI 5.8, ZF 5 speed, 203, 205, 5.38 detroit 35 spline 60's, 38.5 SX's, 107" Wheelbase, Narrowed 6"& grill 13", body stretched 9" 70 BOSS 302 (long Project) 03 F350 CC DRW lariat 4x4, 6.0, torqueshift, MBRP 4" Stainless Duals 02 Excursion Limited Ultimate 4x4 7.3 Contact me for your Custom Cabinetry needs WWW.BENICIACABINETRY.COM _____ From: bfix-bounces@broncofix.com [mailto:bfix-bounces@broncofix.com] On Behalf Of Jack Covert Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 10:43 AM To: Hot Wheels; bronco fix Subject: Re: [BFix] Crank Pulley Question Generally speaking I don't like lock washers. They split and leave you with a very loose bolt. That's just me though. How about safety wire? :) Jack www.ironbender.com 96 Radio Flyer Heavy duty full width front & rear axles 6 point roll cage 71 Bronco Sport 408 Strrrrrrrrrrrrrroker 435/Atlas Full width 60's 3.5" of lift 4 link front, full hydro and 14" SAW coilovers ELK GROVE, CA! ----- Original Message ---- From: Hot Wheels To: bronco fix Sent: Friday, May 9, 2008 10:34:42 AM Subject: [BFix] Crank Pulley Question Hey all, Got a dumb crank pulley question for ya. When Eric N (gotta love that guy..he's everywhere..and always there when u need him) and I assembled my 351w we used steel pulleys and no split washers on the crank pulley. Now that I'm putting the WildHorses hard anodized aluminum ones on I'm asking my self if there should be a lock washers on the crank pulley? thanks for the input, Mick This e-mail is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. '' 2510-2521 and is legally privileged. The information contained in this e-mail is intended only for use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient, please destroy the email after advising by reply that you erroneously received this. The receipt by anyone other than the designated recipient does not waive the attorney-client privilege, nor will it constitute a waiver of the work-product doctrine. _____ With Windows Live for mobile, your contacts travel with you. Connect on the go. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.broncofix.com/pipermail/bfix/attachments/20080509/05dae652/attachment.html From neasham_e at hotmail.com Fri May 9 10:58:34 2008 From: neasham_e at hotmail.com (Eric Neasham) Date: Fri May 9 10:58:29 2008 Subject: [BFix] Crank Pulley Question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: There weren't from the factory. If you are concerned about loosing a bolt, loctite it. if you are concerned about scratching the anodizing, loctite it and use a flat washer. You could also call Jim and see what he has to say. JMHO, Eric From: m1ckey3@hotmail.comTo: mail@broncofix.comDate: Fri, 9 May 2008 17:34:42 +0000CC: Subject: [BFix] Crank Pulley Question Hey all, Got a dumb crank pulley question for ya. When Eric N (gotta love that guy..he's everywhere..and always there when u need him) and I assembled my 351w we used steel pulleys and no split washers on the crank pulley. Now that I'm putting the WildHorses hard anodized aluminum ones on I'm asking my self if there should be a lock washers on the crank pulley? thanks for the input,MickThis e-mail is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18U.S.C. '' 2510-2521 and is legally privileged. The information contained inthis e-mail is intended only for use of the individual or entity namedabove. 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URL: http://www.broncofix.com/pipermail/bfix/attachments/20080509/d7563fc1/attachment.html From m1ckey3 at hotmail.com Fri May 9 11:14:09 2008 From: m1ckey3 at hotmail.com (Hot Wheels) Date: Fri May 9 11:14:05 2008 Subject: [BFix] Crank Pulley Question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I did loctite it; just wanted to be sure the aluminum wouldn't change things. I will go with it is then. p.s. Hey Eric coming your way this fall..u can finally see the finished product (are they ever finished?). thanx again,MickThis e-mail is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18U.S.C. '' 2510-2521 and is legally privileged. The information contained inthis e-mail is intended only for use of the individual or entity namedabove. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or theemployee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient,please destroy the email after advising by reply that you erroneouslyreceived this. The receipt by anyone other than the designated recipientdoes not waive the attorney-client privilege, nor will it constitute awaiver of the work-product doctrine. From: neasham_e@hotmail.comTo: m1ckey3@hotmail.com; mail@broncofix.comSubject: RE: [BFix] Crank Pulley QuestionDate: Fri, 9 May 2008 13:58:34 -0400 There weren't from the factory. If you are concerned about loosing a bolt, loctite it. if you are concerned about scratching the anodizing, loctite it and use a flat washer. You could also call Jim and see what he has to say. JMHO, Eric From: m1ckey3@hotmail.comTo: mail@broncofix.comDate: Fri, 9 May 2008 17:34:42 +0000CC: Subject: [BFix] Crank Pulley Question Hey all, Got a dumb crank pulley question for ya. When Eric N (gotta love that guy..he's everywhere..and always there when u need him) and I assembled my 351w we used steel pulleys and no split washers on the crank pulley. Now that I'm putting the WildHorses hard anodized aluminum ones on I'm asking my self if there should be a lock washers on the crank pulley? thanks for the input,MickThis e-mail is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18U.S.C. '' 2510-2521 and is legally privileged. The information contained inthis e-mail is intended only for use of the individual or entity namedabove. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or theemployee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient,please destroy the email after advising by reply that you erroneouslyreceived this. The receipt by anyone other than the designated recipientdoes not waive the attorney-client privilege, nor will it constitute awaiver of the work-product doctrine. With Windows Live for mobile, your contacts travel with you. Connect on the go. Get Free (PRODUCT) RED? Emoticons, Winks and Display Pics. Check it out! _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live SkyDrive lets you share files with faraway friends. http://www.windowslive.com/skydrive/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_skydrive_052008 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.broncofix.com/pipermail/bfix/attachments/20080509/68c2e883/attachment.html From u10072 at hotmail.com Fri May 9 12:21:58 2008 From: u10072 at hotmail.com (u100 72) Date: Fri May 9 12:21:53 2008 Subject: [BFix] Never Use Lock Washers-Crank Pulley Question In-Reply-To: <121222.68955.qm@web51011.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <121222.68955.qm@web51011.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hello, Hey don't ever use lock washers on anything--including your lawnmower! If you need a fastener to be secure in a blind bolt hole then use a loc-tite or similiar compound. Just like Jack mentioned the other split and then the torque value placed on the fastener is totally compromised. That goes for bolting two pieces together --flat washers on either side of the pieces-- the bolt goes through and a lock nut either nylon or metal is used. There is a reason no professional race cars or the space shuttle has not lock washers. Matt Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 10:42:46 -0700From: ironbenderii@yahoo.comSubject: Re: [BFix] Crank Pulley QuestionTo: m1ckey3@hotmail.com; mail@broncofix.comCC: Generally speaking I don't like lock washers. They split and leave you with a very loose bolt. That's just me though. How about safety wire? :) Jack www.ironbender.com 96 Radio Flyer Heavy duty full width front & rear axles 6 point roll cage 71 Bronco Sport408 Strrrrrrrrrrrrrroker435/AtlasFull width 60's3.5" of lift4 link front, full hydro and 14" SAW coiloversELK GROVE, CA! ----- Original Message ----From: Hot Wheels To: bronco fix Sent: Friday, May 9, 2008 10:34:42 AMSubject: [BFix] Crank Pulley Question Hey all, Got a dumb crank pulley question for ya. When Eric N (gotta love that guy..he's everywhere..and always there when u need him) and I assembled my 351w we used steel pulleys and no split washers on the crank pulley. Now that I'm putting the WildHorses hard anodized aluminum ones on I'm asking my self if there should be a lock washers on the crank pulley? thanks for the input,MickThis e-mail is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18U.S.C. '' 2510-2521 and is legally privileged. 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URL: http://www.broncofix.com/pipermail/bfix/attachments/20080509/d9289fd1/attachment.html From pwmac at sisna.com Fri May 9 12:29:09 2008 From: pwmac at sisna.com (paul wilson) Date: Fri May 9 12:29:25 2008 Subject: [BFix] Engine gauges Message-ID: <200805091329320.SM01604@PAULSPC.sisna.com> Jack, The gauges sure look cool and the ones you mention have to be the choice for individual gauges. I really like the warning features. A lot simpler than my method of extra idiot lights beside a standard gauge using additional switches for temp & press. Have you ever looked at a Racepac dash? All electronic with all the warning set points. Seems to me that it works the issue of limited EB dash space? For the racer the data logger or playback is also attractive. I got a briefing last time I was in El Cajon from the shop next door that is installing the Racepac in pre-runners and race trucks. I was impressed. I have also been looking at the EIS which many of the home built airplane guys use. Its got EGT that would go unused for an efi auto engine. Price is good. Both the Racepac & EIS are less cost than a full panel of gauges. For the electronic dash I was considering adding a conventional tach and speedo to go with the monitor. The goal for the airplane guys is to minimize the amount of things that the pilot has to monitor. These electronic systems eliminate the gauges but flash up a display & warning light when a parameter goes out of range based on the set points chosen. I thought it would be applicable for a racer. Meaning pay attention to driving not monitoring the engine/tranny. For the listers here is Jack's link: http://www.race-dezert.com/forum/showthread.php?t=43438 Nice discussion on the merits of the gauges. Paul ================== Jack wrote on race-dezert: Hi guys. Just thought I'd let you guys know the man in brown delivered a box of really cool high tech gauges to me today!!! These gauges are REALLY nice. They have a white face that goes black when the lights are on. They also have adjustable alarm modes that allow you to wire in warning lights. If you guys aren't familiar w/ this company, check them out. http://www.nordskogperformance.com Jack Covert -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.broncofix.com/pipermail/bfix/attachments/20080509/6e03395d/attachment.html From cat44 at telus.net Fri May 9 12:48:58 2008 From: cat44 at telus.net (Erik Christensen) Date: Fri May 9 12:48:58 2008 Subject: [BFix] AZ guys In-Reply-To: <006e01c8b1d6$dec46630$9c4d3290$@com> References: <380-220085591277828@earthlink.net> <006e01c8b1d6$dec46630$9c4d3290$@com> Message-ID: <9DD917BA8A78437581B3E7C633525B25@Q6600Acer> Getting harder and harder to find here. In fact, I just had to buy a 'big company' bottle, because they don't fill local anymore. They will send mine out for an outrageous price, or exchange my new (small only) bottle for a similarly outrageous price- about what it used to cost to refill my own (twice the size) bottle. small town bandits. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger" To: Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 6:16 AM Subject: RE: [BFix] AZ guys > I've had owner bottles for years. I bought a new one once and have never > seen it since the first exchange. They should be stamped with a code > number > that designates that it is not a company bottle for rent but a private > owner > bottle. You just exchange them for another. They take care of the the > required DOT testing and hydrostatic pressure tests. You always get a > legal > bottle. I get a lot of gas :) from the local NAPA on Saturdays, that's > when > you always run out. You never get a rental charge you just pay for the > gas > because you already contributed a bottle to the owner pool. Common > practice > everywhere I've heard of. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: bfix-bounces@broncofix.com [mailto:bfix-bounces@broncofix.com] On > Behalf Of bfranklinisg@earthlink.net > Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 6:27 PM > To: Mike Bowlin; BroncoGuys > Subject: RE: [BFix] AZ guys > > I have what they call lifetime tanks for cutting torch and I can't find > anyone locally that will fill them. They all want me to give them my tanks > and then lease or buy new ones. Its a bunch of BS! > > Ben > > >> [Original Message] >> From: Mike Bowlin >> To: BroncoGuys >> Date: 5/8/2008 8:07:50 PM >> Subject: [BFix] AZ guys >> >> Hey guys I ran my TIG out of cover gas and now I am wondering if the > tanks >> that I purchased outright in CO are gonna fly here in AZ? Anyone have any >> experience with these matters? >> >> _______________________________________________ >> bfix mailing list >> bfix@broncofix.com >> http://broncofix.com/mailman/listinfo/bfix > > > _______________________________________________ > bfix mailing list > bfix@broncofix.com > http://broncofix.com/mailman/listinfo/bfix > > > _______________________________________________ > bfix mailing list > bfix@broncofix.com > http://broncofix.com/mailman/listinfo/bfix > From ironbenderii at yahoo.com Fri May 9 13:12:49 2008 From: ironbenderii at yahoo.com (Jack Covert) Date: Fri May 9 13:12:43 2008 Subject: [BFix] Engine gauges Message-ID: <29218.64601.qm@web51001.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Yeah, I've seen the race pack gauge cluster.? Pretty slick!? My buddy is using one on?his new buggy.? It's cool for saving space but I like the look of?all the individual gauges... Jack ? www.ironbender.com ? 96 Radio Flyer Heavy duty full width front & rear axles 6 point roll cage 71 Bronco Sport 408 Strrrrrrrrrrrrrroker 435/Atlas Full width 60's 3.5" of lift 4 link front, full hydro and 14" SAW coilovers ELK GROVE, CA! ----- Original Message ---- From: paul wilson To: mail@broncofix.com Sent: Friday, May 9, 2008 12:29:09 PM Subject: [BFix] Engine gauges Jack, The gauges sure look cool and the ones you mention have to be the choice for individual gauges. I really like the warning features. A lot simpler than my method of extra idiot lights beside a standard gauge using additional switches for temp & press. Have you ever looked at a Racepac dash? All electronic with all the warning set points. Seems to me that it works the issue of limited EB dash space? For the racer the data logger or playback is also attractive. I got a briefing last time I was in El Cajon from the shop next door that is installing the Racepac in pre-runners and race trucks. I was impressed. I have also been looking at the EIS which many of the home built airplane guys use. Its got EGT that would go unused for an efi auto engine. Price is good. Both the Racepac & EIS are less cost than a full panel of gauges. For the electronic dash I was considering adding a conventional tach and speedo to go with the monitor. The goal for the airplane guys is to minimize the amount of things that the pilot has to monitor. These electronic systems eliminate the gauges but flash up a display & warning light when a parameter goes out of range based on the set points chosen. I thought it would be applicable for a racer.? Meaning pay attention to driving not monitoring the engine/tranny. For the listers here is Jack's link: http://www.race-dezert.com/forum/showthread.php?t=43438 Nice discussion on the merits of the gauges. Paul ================== Jack wrote on race-dezert: Hi guys. Just thought I'd let you guys know the man in brown delivered a box of really cool high tech gauges to me today!!! These gauges are REALLY nice. They have a white face that goes black when the lights are on. They also have adjustable alarm modes that allow you to wire in warning lights. If you guys aren't familiar w/ this company, check them out. http://www.nordskogperformance.com Jack Covert -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.broncofix.com/pipermail/bfix/attachments/20080509/f04f73e3/attachment.html From 71broncoman at prodigy.net Fri May 9 13:21:39 2008 From: 71broncoman at prodigy.net (Joe Lougee) Date: Fri May 9 13:20:42 2008 Subject: [BFix] Backwards fuel rail? In-Reply-To: <79CC2CDB196D40D9A6325E24416E4AC2@Speedy> References: <79CC2CDB196D40D9A6325E24416E4AC2@Speedy> Message-ID: <4824B253.6080004@prodigy.net> Scott, you can use the other style of fuel rails to swap the inlet to another location; however, you'll run into issues where the FPR is, it WILL NOT fit under the upper plenum. IF you use about a 1" phenolic spacer it should fit, but otherwise won't. That's why the fuel rails are different, to allow the FPR clearance, notice it sits beside the TB in both instances. Joe Scott Dickerson wrote: > I have the Mustang style upper manifold (plenum on driver's side, > throttle body on passenger side), and I currently have the normal > Mustang style fuel rail (inlet and outlet connections on passenger > side front). I know some applications (Thunderbirds?) have these > reversed - fuel inlet/outlet on driver's side). > > Anyone know if I can keep this manifold setup and use the fuel rail > that has the connections on the driver's side? I'm looking at > re-routing my fuel lines, and this would greatly simplify things. It > looks like it would clear the manifold if it truly is an exact mirror > image of my fuel rail, but not sure exactly how the other fuel rails > are shaped. > > Scott > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > bfix mailing list > bfix@broncofix.com > http://broncofix.com/mailman/listinfo/bfix > From 71broncoman at prodigy.net Fri May 9 13:30:45 2008 From: 71broncoman at prodigy.net (Joe Lougee) Date: Fri May 9 13:29:48 2008 Subject: [BFix] Thinking outload gas mileage and EB.... In-Reply-To: References: <971878.84644.qm@web81106.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4824B475.40901@prodigy.net> I have gotten in the 17+ range for extended distances, but not often. Rig was: 1. MAF SEFI Roller 351W with ZF and D20. 2. 4.10 gears. 3. 35" MT/Rs. 4. Full doors and bikini top. At around 55-60 MPH it would get 18.5-19. The only time I can drive that was on the way to CA, following Clint's Dad's trailer. They couldn't get enough tongue weight on it so had to drive slow to stop the "waggle". At 65-70 it would average around 17.5 on the highway. Around town I would get 15.5 on average, but would get .75-1MPG better with the hard top on. I'm currently building another with a MAF SEFI Roller 408 stroker, built AOD (_without_ the lock-up feature), 4.88 gears and 40" MT/Rs. It'll be interesting to see what it'll get for mileage!! Joe Erik Christensen wrote: > gearing has absolutely nothing to do with mileage in a Bronco. I've > tested extensively, from 3.50 to 4.88, and the only thing that matters > is your cruise speed. 50mph might get 18mpg. I never beat 17, but some > claim to, although set ups vary. Mine was generally with 35" mudders, > 5.5" total lift, and SEFI.various transmissions. > > 90-100mph, 10-12mpg. > 70-80 mph 13-14mpg. > 55-65mpg 15-16mpg average > 50-55mph I got 17mpg the one trip (full tank- hwy) I tried it. > > As far as I'm concerned, I'm going to run out of time before we run > out of oil, so I drive fast :) > > YMMV :) > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Jim Lemanek > *To:* mail@broncofix.com > *Sent:* Wednesday, May 07, 2008 8:21 PM > *Subject:* [BFix] Thinking outload gas mileage and EB.... > > Reading all that we do, it looks like someone with a 5.0 and an OD > tranny like a ZF gets maybe 18 mpg. What gears is that with? > > So if I were to keep the 3.50 gears, install a 5.0 and a ZF, any > guess what I could get? > > According to gear calcs, an OD at .75 and 34" tires, at 70 mph I > get 18XX rpm at 70 with 3.5 gears and 21XX rpm with 4.11. > > What do you think that would do to mpg? Stock 92 mustang 5.0. > > Just wondering thoughts. I was gonna ask best mpg setup as an > excercise but quickly realized I would get a discussion on 4bt > probably. Thats a bit outside my motivation based on my current > resources. > > --Jim > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > bfix mailing list > bfix@broncofix.com > http://broncofix.com/mailman/listinfo/bfix > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > bfix mailing list > bfix@broncofix.com > http://broncofix.com/mailman/listinfo/bfix > From chuck at bcbroncos.com Fri May 9 14:40:00 2008 From: chuck at bcbroncos.com (Chuck, BC) Date: Fri May 9 14:39:55 2008 Subject: [BFix] Engine gauges References: <200805091329320.SM01604@PAULSPC.sisna.com> Message-ID: <001f01c8b21d$3cbb6950$6ca8a8c0@chuck> I am a Nordskog dealer and run the warning/limit light gauges in our racer, also the GPS speedo. All work well. Chuck toll free 888 304-2945 ----- Original Message ----- From: paul wilson To: mail@broncofix.com Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 2:29 PM Subject: [BFix] Engine gauges Jack, The gauges sure look cool and the ones you mention have to be the choice for individual gauges. I really like the warning features. A lot simpler than my method of extra idiot lights beside a standard gauge using additional switches for temp & press. Have you ever looked at a Racepac dash? All electronic with all the warning set points. Seems to me that it works the issue of limited EB dash space? For the racer the data logger or playback is also attractive. I got a briefing last time I was in El Cajon from the shop next door that is installing the Racepac in pre-runners and race trucks. I was impressed. I have also been looking at the EIS which many of the home built airplane guys use. Its got EGT that would go unused for an efi auto engine. Price is good. Both the Racepac & EIS are less cost than a full panel of gauges. For the electronic dash I was considering adding a conventional tach and speedo to go with the monitor. The goal for the airplane guys is to minimize the amount of things that the pilot has to monitor. These electronic systems eliminate the gauges but flash up a display & warning light when a parameter goes out of range based on the set points chosen. I thought it would be applicable for a racer. Meaning pay attention to driving not monitoring the engine/tranny. For the listers here is Jack's link: http://www.race-dezert.com/forum/showthread.php?t=43438 Nice discussion on the merits of the gauges. Paul ================== Jack wrote on race-dezert: Hi guys. Just thought I'd let you guys know the man in brown delivered a box of really cool high tech gauges to me today!!! These gauges are REALLY nice. They have a white face that goes black when the lights are on. They also have adjustable alarm modes that allow you to wire in warning lights. If you guys aren't familiar w/ this company, check them out. http://www.nordskogperformance.com Jack Covert ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ bfix mailing list bfix@broncofix.com http://broncofix.com/mailman/listinfo/bfix -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.broncofix.com/pipermail/bfix/attachments/20080509/cb9c90de/attachment.html From sfu at roadrunner.com Fri May 9 15:18:28 2008 From: sfu at roadrunner.com (Stephen Urban) Date: Fri May 9 15:18:41 2008 Subject: [BFix] Re: (OT) Fwd: Mass Buy On Buckstop Bumpers. In-Reply-To: <481B6FE7.6000507@roadrunner.com> References: <481B6FE7.6000507@roadrunner.com> Message-ID: <4824CDB4.3080109@roadrunner.com> Just an update to pass on that Buckstop has extended this offer through Monday the 12th. Steve Urban Semper Fi! SCB#143 EBR#0692 CA4WDC#3576 NRA & CRPA Life Member 29 Palms, CA sfu@roadrunner.com Stephen Urban wrote: > Since I figure there might be some interest here I am forwarding this > from another forum where some people I know have put together a mass > buy on these. I have no connection with this other then to pass on the > word so contact them directly and please note the order deadline of > May 8th. > > I have a set of these bumpers on my 07 F350 and they are HEAVY DUTY. > The main part (and winch cradle) of the front is made from 1/4" plate > with the rest being 3/16th. When I installed mine they went on with NO > need for rework/modification. The bolt holes lined up perfectly and > even the thickness of the powder coating had been taken into account. > > If anyone is looking for a heavy duty bumper for their tow rig this is > a great opportunity to save some cash on a quality product. > > Again, NOTE THE ORDER DEADLINE OF MAY 8TH. > > Steve Urban > Semper Fi! > SCB#143 > EBR#0692 > CA4WDC#3576 > NRA & CRPA Life Member > 29 Palms, CA > sfu@roadrunner.com > > > > > ---Original message----- > > If anyone is interested, we have a group purchase in progress over on > RV.net for Buckstop bumpers. This includes Buckstop's front and rear > bumpers, as well as accessories such as lights and Warn winches. The > group purchase ends as of close of business on next Thursday May 8th. > We currently have 5 people who have committed to an order, however, > the more folks we can get involved, the better of a discount we can > all get. Here is the discount schedule that has been negotiated with > Buckstop: > > - 1 order = retail pricing > - 2 orders = 1.5% discount > - 4 orders = 4.5% discount > - 5 orders = 6% discount > - 6 orders = 7.5% discount > - 7 orders = 9% discount > - 8 orders = 10% discount > - 10 orders = 15% discount > > Also, while Buckstop already discounts their lights and winches when > purchased at the same time as bumpers, as part of the group purchase, > they are offering an additional 10% off of their lighting products as > well as an additional 5% off of winches. These additional discounts > will apply regardless of the number of group buy participants. > > Here are some more details for anyone who might be interested in > participating: > > 1) The link to the Buckstop group purchase thread on RV.net is: > http://www.rv.net/forum/Index.cfm/fuseacti...19.cfm#21359319 > > 2) The link to Buckstop?s website is: http://www.buckstop.biz/ > > 3) If you are interested in ordering a Buckstop bumper at discount (as > part of the group purchase), please either post in this thread, post > in the thread on RV.net (if you are a member of that forum), or you > can send me a PM. This way, we can keep better track of how many folks > will be ordering so we can see what kind of discount we can ultimately > achieve. > > 4) In terms of the ordering process, here is the plan. You will need > to call Kris at Buckstop at 1-800-431-6978 no later than May 8th, and > tell him that your bumper order is part of the RV.net group purchase. > Then please come back to this thread, the thread on RV.net, or send me > a PM that you have placed your order. The other thing to keep in mind > is what is mentioned in the thread on RV.net, and that is, > coordinating shipping between two or more people to save on shipping > costs by having a single shipment with more than one bumper in the > shipment. Those folks that plan to go this direction will need to call > their orders in on the same day (which could be any business day > between now and the 8th). > > 5) With regard to discounts, Kris has indicated that when anyone > places their order with Buckstop (from now through the deadline of May > 8th), their credit card will be charged the full retail amount for > their respective order. After all orders are in and the group purchase > is closed at the end of business on the 8th, Buckstop will tally the > orders and they will then figure the appropriate discount level and > credit back the resultant amounts to each of our credit card accounts. > > So that's about it. As you can see, the more people that place their > orders by May 8th, the better the overall and individual discounts > will be for all ordering parties. These are some really heavy-duty, > well-built, and good looking bumpers, and it's not often that a group > purchase comes along to save some money on such items. If you have any > questions, please let me know. > > In closing, please note that I have no affiliation whatsoever with > Buckstop, nor do I stand to gain anything from the group purchase > effort (other than the same discount that any other participant would > benefit from). I am simply an Owners Group and RV.net forum member who > (along with the other participants), have a personal interest in > purchasing Buckstop bumpers for our rigs. > > Thanks, > > Don Curley > From ebr at san.rr.com Fri May 9 15:43:58 2008 From: ebr at san.rr.com (Steve Sampson) Date: Fri May 9 15:44:00 2008 Subject: [BFix] Need a white NY Bronco for Photo Shoot Message-ID: <06e601c8b226$2ea473d0$8bed5b70$@rr.com> All If you have a white Bronco and are near Long Island NY, please read below. If you are interested, reply directly to Chris at his email (sales@cooperclassiccars.com) or phone (212-929-3909). Steve Steve Sampson Early Bronco Registry www.earlybronco.com From: Sales [mailto:sales@cooperclassiccars.com] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 11:16 AM To: 'editor@earlybronco.com' Subject: Bronco for Photo Shoot Steve We're looking for an early Bronco in White for a Photo Shoot in Long Island, NY on Tuesday May 13th. The shoot is still photography, so the car wouldn't be driven, and everything is fully insured. This is all for advertising for a Major Fashion Company. Can you help me out at all, or point me in the right direction to find something in the New York Area? Maybe someone in the registry that is close by would be interested. Of course, they will be paid for their time. Thank you Chris Epperson www.cooperclassiccars.com 212-929-3909 From M.Bowlin at mchsi.com Fri May 9 15:53:17 2008 From: M.Bowlin at mchsi.com (Mike Bowlin) Date: Fri May 9 15:53:10 2008 Subject: was Re: [BFix] Thinking outload gas mileage and EB.... now why ditch the lock up References: <971878.84644.qm@web81106.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4824B475.40901@prodigy.net> Message-ID: <001e01c8b227$790ad1c0$6401a8c0@Mike> What is the advantage of loosing the lock up feature on the AOD Joe? The lock up on my 700r4 never bothers me or creates problems. And while we are at why an AOD behind a 408 in the first place seems to me there are way better transmissions to put behind the beef of a stroker. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Lougee" <71broncoman@prodigy.net> Cc: Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 1:30 PM Subject: Re: [BFix] Thinking outload gas mileage and EB.... >I have gotten in the 17+ range for extended distances, but not often. > > Rig was: > 1. MAF SEFI Roller 351W with ZF and D20. > 2. 4.10 gears. > 3. 35" MT/Rs. > 4. Full doors and bikini top. > > At around 55-60 MPH it would get 18.5-19. The only time I can drive that > was on the way to CA, following Clint's Dad's trailer. They couldn't get > enough tongue weight on it so had to drive slow to stop the "waggle". > > At 65-70 it would average around 17.5 on the highway. > > Around town I would get 15.5 on average, but would get .75-1MPG better > with the hard top on. > > I'm currently building another with a MAF SEFI Roller 408 stroker, built > AOD (_without_ the lock-up feature), 4.88 gears and 40" MT/Rs. It'll be > interesting to see what it'll get for mileage!! > Joe > > > Erik Christensen wrote: >> gearing has absolutely nothing to do with mileage in a Bronco. I've >> tested extensively, from 3.50 to 4.88, and the only thing that matters is >> your cruise speed. 50mph might get 18mpg. I never beat 17, but some claim >> to, although set ups vary. Mine was generally with 35" mudders, 5.5" >> total lift, and SEFI.various transmissions. >> 90-100mph, 10-12mpg. >> 70-80 mph 13-14mpg. >> 55-65mpg 15-16mpg average >> 50-55mph I got 17mpg the one trip (full tank- hwy) I tried it. As far as >> I'm concerned, I'm going to run out of time before we run out of oil, so >> I drive fast :) >> YMMV :) >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* Jim Lemanek >> *To:* mail@broncofix.com >> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 07, 2008 8:21 PM >> *Subject:* [BFix] Thinking outload gas mileage and EB.... >> >> Reading all that we do, it looks like someone with a 5.0 and an OD >> tranny like a ZF gets maybe 18 mpg. What gears is that with? >> So if I were to keep the 3.50 gears, install a 5.0 and a ZF, any >> guess what I could get? >> According to gear calcs, an OD at .75 and 34" tires, at 70 mph I >> get 18XX rpm at 70 with 3.5 gears and 21XX rpm with 4.11. >> What do you think that would do to mpg? Stock 92 mustang 5.0. >> Just wondering thoughts. I was gonna ask best mpg setup as an >> excercise but quickly realized I would get a discussion on 4bt >> probably. Thats a bit outside my motivation based on my current >> resources. >> --Jim >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> _______________________________________________ >> bfix mailing list >> bfix@broncofix.com >> http://broncofix.com/mailman/listinfo/bfix >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> bfix mailing list >> bfix@broncofix.com >> http://broncofix.com/mailman/listinfo/bfix >> > _______________________________________________ > bfix mailing list > bfix@broncofix.com > http://broncofix.com/mailman/listinfo/bfix > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.11/1422 - > Release Date: 5/8/2008 5:24 PM > > From cat44 at telus.net Fri May 9 16:40:17 2008 From: cat44 at telus.net (Erik Christensen) Date: Fri May 9 16:40:16 2008 Subject: [BFix] Need a white NY Bronco for Photo Shoot In-Reply-To: <06e601c8b226$2ea473d0$8bed5b70$@rr.com> References: <06e601c8b226$2ea473d0$8bed5b70$@rr.com> Message-ID: <0AA18A079B744C18A5EA60D0B2F69F79@Q6600Acer> OR, if you WANT a white EB, I'm sure they'd spray it for you if they can't find another one :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Sampson" To: "Bronco Fix" Cc: Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 3:43 PM Subject: [BFix] Need a white NY Bronco for Photo Shoot > > All > > > > If you have a white Bronco and are near Long Island NY, please read below. > > > > If you are interested, reply directly to Chris at his email > (sales@cooperclassiccars.com) or phone (212-929-3909). > > > > Steve > > > > > > Steve Sampson > > Early Bronco Registry > > www.earlybronco.com > > > > From: Sales [mailto:sales@cooperclassiccars.com] > Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 11:16 AM > To: 'editor@earlybronco.com' > Subject: Bronco for Photo Shoot > > > > Steve > > > > We're looking for an early Bronco in White for a Photo Shoot in Long > Island, > NY on Tuesday May 13th. The shoot is still photography, so the car > wouldn't > be driven, and everything is fully insured. This is all for advertising > for > a Major Fashion Company. Can you help me out at all, or point me in the > right direction to find something in the New York Area? Maybe someone in > the > registry that is close by would be interested. Of course, they will be > paid > for their time. > > > > Thank you > > Chris Epperson > > www.cooperclassiccars.com > > 212-929-3909 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > bfix mailing list > bfix@broncofix.com > http://broncofix.com/mailman/listinfo/bfix > From hucklburrybronco at sbcglobal.net Fri May 9 17:59:04 2008 From: hucklburrybronco at sbcglobal.net (Jim Lemanek) Date: Fri May 9 17:58:55 2008 Subject: [BFix] Never Use Lock Washers-Crank Pulley Question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <322822.64396.qm@web81107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> We don't use them on overhead cranes and structures anymore for the same reason. Don't need a 40-ton crane with loose girders! We do find old ones with broken locks and replace them without. Nylock nuts are pretty popular....Its amazing how many bolts can be broken/missing/loose and a structure still works ok. But at the point it no longer works things get exciting. u100 72 wrote: .hmmessage P { margin:0px; padding:0px } body.hmmessage { FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma } Hello, Hey don't ever use lock washers on anything--including your lawnmower! If you need a fastener to be secure in a blind bolt hole then use a loc-tite or similiar compound. Just like Jack mentioned the other split and then the torque value placed on the fastener is totally compromised. That goes for bolting two pieces together --flat washers on either side of the pieces-- the bolt goes through and a lock nut either nylon or metal is used. There is a reason no professional race cars or the space shuttle has not lock washers. Matt --------------------------------- Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 10:42:46 -0700 From: ironbenderii@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [BFix] Crank Pulley Question To: m1ckey3@hotmail.com; mail@broncofix.com CC: .ExternalClass DIV {;} Generally speaking I don't like lock washers. They split and leave you with a very loose bolt. That's just me though. How about safety wire? :) Jack www.ironbender.com 96 Radio Flyer Heavy duty full width front & rear axles 6 point roll cage 71 Bronco Sport 408 Strrrrrrrrrrrrrroker 435/Atlas Full width 60's 3.5" of lift 4 link front, full hydro and 14" SAW coilovers ELK GROVE, CA! ----- Original Message ---- From: Hot Wheels To: bronco fix Sent: Friday, May 9, 2008 10:34:42 AM Subject: [BFix] Crank Pulley Question .ExternalClass .EC_hmmessage P {padding:0px;} .ExternalClass body.EC_hmmessage {font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma;} Hey all, Got a dumb crank pulley question for ya. When Eric N (gotta love that guy..he's everywhere..and always there when u need him) and I assembled my 351w we used steel pulleys and no split washers on the crank pulley. Now that I'm putting the WildHorses hard anodized aluminum ones on I'm asking my self if there should be a lock washers on the crank pulley? thanks for the input, Mick This e-mail is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. '' 2510-2521 and is legally privileged. The information contained in this e-mail is intended only for use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient, please destroy the email after advising by reply that you erroneously received this. 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URL: http://www.broncofix.com/pipermail/bfix/attachments/20080509/48a4b0fc/attachment.html From ntsqd at yahoo.com Fri May 9 18:05:02 2008 From: ntsqd at yahoo.com (ts) Date: Fri May 9 18:04:55 2008 Subject: [BFix] Never Use Lock Washers-Crank Pulley Question In-Reply-To: <322822.64396.qm@web81107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <322584.70001.qm@web56611.mail.re3.yahoo.com> They do have a place on small, numbered size fasteners used on electronics circuit boards. That is the only place I'll accept them. Safety wire & pliers are part of my trail tools. Also going with them is a tool MISF found at a gun show that allows the building of hose clamps from safety wire. One pound of .040" safety wire could make one VERY large clamp. A lot larger than I want to carry with me. Jim Lemanek wrote: We don't use them on overhead cranes and structures anymore for the same reason. Don't need a 40-ton crane with loose girders! We do find old ones with broken locks and replace them without. Nylock nuts are pretty popular....Its amazing how many bolts can be broken/missing/loose and a structure still works ok. But at the point it no longer works things get exciting. u100 72 wrote: .hmmessage P { margin:0px; padding:0px } body.hmmessage { FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma } Hello, Hey don't ever use lock washers on anything--including your lawnmower! If you need a fastener to be secure in a blind bolt hole then use a loc-tite or similiar compound. Just like Jack mentioned the other split and then the torque value placed on the fastener is totally compromised. That goes for bolting two pieces together --flat washers on either side of the pieces-- the bolt goes through and a lock nut either nylon or metal is used. There is a reason no professional race cars or the space shuttle has not lock washers. Matt --------------------------------- Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 10:42:46 -0700 From: ironbenderii@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [BFix] Crank Pulley Question To: m1ckey3@hotmail.com; mail@broncofix.com CC: .ExternalClass DIV {;} Generally speaking I don't like lock washers. They split and leave you with a very loose bolt. That's just me though. How about safety wire? :) Jack www.ironbender.com 96 Radio Flyer Heavy duty full width front & rear axles 6 point roll cage 71 Bronco Sport 408 Strrrrrrrrrrrrrroker 435/Atlas Full width 60's 3.5" of lift 4 link front, full hydro and 14" SAW coilovers ELK GROVE, CA! ----- Original Message ---- From: Hot Wheels To: bronco fix Sent: Friday, May 9, 2008 10:34:42 AM Subject: [BFix] Crank Pulley Question .ExternalClass .EC_hmmessage P {padding:0px;} .ExternalClass body.EC_hmmessage {font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma;} Hey all, Got a dumb crank pulley question for ya. When Eric N (gotta love that guy..he's everywhere..and always there when u need him) and I assembled my 351w we used steel pulleys and no split washers on the crank pulley. Now that I'm putting the WildHorses hard anodized aluminum ones on I'm asking my self if there should be a lock washers on the crank pulley? thanks for the input, Mick This e-mail is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. '' 2510-2521 and is legally privileged. The information contained in this e-mail is intended only for use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient, please destroy the email after advising by reply that you erroneously received this. 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URL: http://www.broncofix.com/pipermail/bfix/attachments/20080509/6c35ce32/attachment.html From m1ckey3 at hotmail.com Fri May 9 18:09:57 2008 From: m1ckey3 at hotmail.com (Hot Wheels) Date: Fri May 9 18:09:47 2008 Subject: [BFix] Never Use Lock Washers-Crank Pulley Question In-Reply-To: <322584.70001.qm@web56611.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <322822.64396.qm@web81107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <322584.70001.qm@web56611.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I guess I need some instruction on how to use safety wire for a bolt other than to drill the head?MickThis e-mail is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18U.S.C. '' 2510-2521 and is legally privileged. The information contained inthis e-mail is intended only for use of the individual or entity namedabove. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or theemployee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient,please destroy the email after advising by reply that you erroneouslyreceived this. The receipt by anyone other than the designated recipientdoes not waive the attorney-client privilege, nor will it constitute awaiver of the work-product doctrine. Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 18:05:02 -0700From: ntsqd@yahoo.comSubject: Re: [BFix] Never Use Lock Washers-Crank Pulley QuestionTo: mail@broncofix.comCC: They do have a place on small, numbered size fasteners used on electronics circuit boards. That is the only place I'll accept them.Safety wire & pliers are part of my trail tools. Also going with them is a tool MISF found at a gun show that allows the building of hose clamps from safety wire. One pound of .040" safety wire could make one VERY large clamp. A lot larger than I want to carry with me.Jim Lemanek wrote: We don't use them on overhead cranes and structures anymore for the same reason. Don't need a 40-ton crane with loose girders! We do find old ones with broken locks and replace them without. Nylock nuts are pretty popular....Its amazing how many bolts can be broken/missing/loose and a structure still works ok. But at the point it no longer works things get exciting.u100 72 wrote: Hello,Hey don't ever use lock washers on anything--including your lawnmower! If you need a fastener to be secure in a blind bolt hole then use a loc-tite or similiar compound. Just like Jack mentioned the other split and then the torque value placed on the fastener is totally compromised. That goes for bolting two pieces together --flat washers on either side of the pieces-- the bolt goes through and a lock nut either nylon or metal is used. There is a reason no professional race cars or the space shuttle has not lock washers. Matt Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 10:42:46 -0700From: ironbenderii@yahoo.comSubject: Re: [BFix] Crank Pulley QuestionTo: m1ckey3@hotmail.com; mail@broncofix.comCC: Generally speaking I don't like lock washers. They split and leave you with a very loose bolt. That's just me though. How about safety wire? :) Jack www.ironbender.com 96 Radio FlyerHeavy duty full width front & rear axles6 point roll cage71 Bronco Sport408 Strrrrrrrrrrrrrroker435/AtlasFull width 60's3.5" of lift4 link front, full hydro and 14" SAW coiloversELK GROVE, CA! ----- Original Message ----From: Hot Wheels To: bronco fix Sent: Friday, May 9, 2008 10:34:42 AMSubject: [BFix] Crank Pulley Question Hey all, Got a dumb crank pulley question for ya. When Eric N (gotta love that guy..he's everywhere..and always there when u need him) and I assembled my 351w we used steel pulleys and no split washers on the crank pulley. Now that I'm putting the WildHorses hard anodized aluminum ones on I'm asking my self if there should be a lock washers on the crank pulley? thanks for the input,MickThis e-mail is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18U.S.C. '' 2510-2521 and is legally privileged. 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Try it now. _________________________________________________________________ Stay in touch when you're away with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_messenger_052008 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.broncofix.com/pipermail/bfix/attachments/20080510/cb3da6b9/attachment.html From 71broncoman at prodigy.net Fri May 9 18:28:18 2008 From: 71broncoman at prodigy.net (Joe Lougee) Date: Fri May 9 18:27:17 2008 Subject: was Re: [BFix] Thinking outload gas mileage and EB.... now why ditch the lock up In-Reply-To: <001e01c8b227$790ad1c0$6401a8c0@Mike> References: <971878.84644.qm@web81106.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4824B475.40901@prodigy.net> <001e01c8b227$790ad1c0$6401a8c0@Mike> Message-ID: <4824FA32.5070004@prodigy.net> Mike, the big advantage is that the tranny itself is much stronger without the lock-up shaft in there. That feature is provided by a really small (like 3/4" diameter) where it extends and locks up. It may be different on the 700R4, couldn't tell you. As to why an AOD, why not? Assuming I prefer to avoid giving any of my hard earned cash to AA, what O/D auto would you run? I have a local builder who does great work and cuts me pretty awesome deals (the latest C-4 for the buggy was $400) and it still includes a 1 year guarantee. Joe Mike Bowlin wrote: > What is the advantage of loosing the lock up feature on the AOD Joe? > The lock up on my 700r4 never bothers me or creates problems. And > while we are at why an AOD behind a 408 in the first place seems to me > there are way better transmissions to put behind the beef of a stroker. > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Lougee" <71broncoman@prodigy.net> > Cc: > Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 1:30 PM > Subject: Re: [BFix] Thinking outload gas mileage and EB.... > > >> I have gotten in the 17+ range for extended distances, but not often. >> >> Rig was: >> 1. MAF SEFI Roller 351W with ZF and D20. >> 2. 4.10 gears. >> 3. 35" MT/Rs. >> 4. Full doors and bikini top. >> >> At around 55-60 MPH it would get 18.5-19. The only time I can drive >> that was on the way to CA, following Clint's Dad's trailer. They >> couldn't get enough tongue weight on it so had to drive slow to stop >> the "waggle". >> >> At 65-70 it would average around 17.5 on the highway. >> >> Around town I would get 15.5 on average, but would get .75-1MPG >> better with the hard top on. >> >> I'm currently building another with a MAF SEFI Roller 408 stroker, >> built AOD (_without_ the lock-up feature), 4.88 gears and 40" MT/Rs. >> It'll be interesting to see what it'll get for mileage!! >> Joe >> >> >> Erik Christensen wrote: >>> gearing has absolutely nothing to do with mileage in a Bronco. I've >>> tested extensively, from 3.50 to 4.88, and the only thing that >>> matters is your cruise speed. 50mph might get 18mpg. I never beat >>> 17, but some claim to, although set ups vary. Mine was generally >>> with 35" mudders, 5.5" total lift, and SEFI.various transmissions. >>> 90-100mph, 10-12mpg. >>> 70-80 mph 13-14mpg. >>> 55-65mpg 15-16mpg average >>> 50-55mph I got 17mpg the one trip (full tank- hwy) I tried it. As >>> far as I'm concerned, I'm going to run out of time before we run out >>> of oil, so I drive fast :) >>> YMMV :) >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> *From:* Jim Lemanek >>> *To:* mail@broncofix.com >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 07, 2008 8:21 PM >>> *Subject:* [BFix] Thinking outload gas mileage and EB.... >>> >>> Reading all that we do, it looks like someone with a 5.0 and an OD >>> tranny like a ZF gets maybe 18 mpg. What gears is that with? >>> So if I were to keep the 3.50 gears, install a 5.0 and a ZF, any >>> guess what I could get? >>> According to gear calcs, an OD at .75 and 34" tires, at 70 mph I >>> get 18XX rpm at 70 with 3.5 gears and 21XX rpm with 4.11. >>> What do you think that would do to mpg? Stock 92 mustang 5.0. >>> Just wondering thoughts. I was gonna ask best mpg setup as an >>> excercise but quickly realized I would get a discussion on 4bt >>> probably. Thats a bit outside my motivation based on my current >>> resources. >>> --Jim >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> bfix mailing list >>> bfix@broncofix.com >>> http://broncofix.com/mailman/listinfo/bfix >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> bfix mailing list >>> bfix@broncofix.com >>> http://broncofix.com/mailman/listinfo/bfix >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> bfix mailing list >> bfix@broncofix.com >> http://broncofix.com/mailman/listinfo/bfix >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.11/1422 - >> Release Date: 5/8/2008 5:24 PM >> >> > > From ntsqd at yahoo.com Fri May 9 18:36:04 2008 From: ntsqd at yahoo.com (ts) Date: Fri May 9 18:35:56 2008 Subject: [BFix] Never Use Lock Washers-Crank Pulley Question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <51291.53296.qm@web56613.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Drill the heads. For crank pulley bolts I'd just use Lock-Tite, color dependent on your anality. Hot Wheels wrote: .hmmessage P { margin:0px; padding:0px } body.hmmessage { FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma } I guess I need some instruction on how to use safety wire for a bolt other than to drill the head? Mick This e-mail is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. '' 2510-2521 and is legally privileged. The information contained in this e-mail is intended only for use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient, please destroy the email after advising by reply that you erroneously received this. The receipt by anyone other than the designated recipient does not waive the attorney-client privilege, nor will it constitute a waiver of the work-product doctrine. --------------------------------- Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 18:05:02 -0700 From: ntsqd@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [BFix] Never Use Lock Washers-Crank Pulley Question To: mail@broncofix.com CC: They do have a place on small, numbered size fasteners used on electronics circuit boards. That is the only place I'll accept them. Safety wire & pliers are part of my trail tools. Also going with them is a tool MISF found at a gun show that allows the building of hose clamps from safety wire. One pound of .040" safety wire could make one VERY large clamp. A lot larger than I want to carry with me. Jim Lemanek wrote: We don't use them on overhead cranes and structures anymore for the same reason. Don't need a 40-ton crane with loose girders! We do find old ones with broken locks and replace them without. Nylock nuts are pretty popular....Its amazing how many bolts can be broken/missing/loose and a structure still works ok. But at the point it no longer works things get exciting. u100 72 wrote: .ExternalClass .EC_hmmessage P {padding:0px;} .ExternalClass body.EC_hmmessage {font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma;} Hello, Hey don't ever use lock washers on anything--including your lawnmower! If you need a fastener to be secure in a blind bolt hole then use a loc-tite or similiar compound. Just like Jack mentioned the other split and then the torque value placed on the fastener is totally compromised. That goes for bolting two pieces together --flat washers on either side of the pieces-- the bolt goes through and a lock nut either nylon or metal is used. There is a reason no professional race cars or the space shuttle has not lock washers. Matt --------------------------------- Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 10:42:46 -0700 From: ironbenderii@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [BFix] Crank Pulley Question To: m1ckey3@hotmail.com; mail@broncofix.com CC: .ExternalClass DIV {;} Generally speaking I don't like lock washers. They split and leave you with a very loose bolt. That's just me though. How about safety wire? :) Jack www.ironbender.com 96 Radio Flyer Heavy duty full width front & rear axles 6 point roll cage 71 Bronco Sport 408 Strrrrrrrrrrrrrroker 435/Atlas Full width 60's 3.5" of lift 4 link front, full hydro and 14" SAW coilovers ELK GROVE, CA! ----- Original Message ---- From: Hot Wheels To: bronco fix Sent: Friday, May 9, 2008 10:34:42 AM Subject: [BFix] Crank Pulley Question .ExternalClass .EC_hmmessage P {padding:0px;} .ExternalClass body.EC_hmmessage {font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma;} Hey all, Got a dumb crank pulley question for ya. When Eric N (gotta love that guy..he's everywhere..and always there when u need him) and I assembled my 351w we used steel pulleys and no split washers on the crank pulley. Now that I'm putting the WildHorses hard anodized aluminum ones on I'm asking my self if there should be a lock washers on the crank pulley? thanks for the input, Mick This e-mail is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. '' 2510-2521 and is legally privileged. The information contained in this e-mail is intended only for use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient, please destroy the email after advising by reply that you erroneously received this. 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Try it now. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.broncofix.com/pipermail/bfix/attachments/20080509/584dad14/attachment.html From sfu at roadrunner.com Fri May 9 18:51:09 2008 From: sfu at roadrunner.com (Stephen Urban) Date: Fri May 9 18:51:11 2008 Subject: [BFix] Never Use Lock Washers-Crank Pulley Question In-Reply-To: <322584.70001.qm@web56611.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <322584.70001.qm@web56611.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4824FF8D.7080505@roadrunner.com> I have one of these "clamp kits" as well. Bought it MANY years ago at the Off Road Expo in Pomona. So long ago in fact that I think it was still called the SCORE Show at the time. They are a little tricky to get right but once you get the hang of it they are a snap. We recently bought some of these at work (USMC/Civil Service) for our cable shop. Steve Urban Semper Fi! SCB#143 EBR#0692 CA4WDC#3576 NRA & CRPA Life Member 29 Palms, CA sfu@roadrunner.com ts wrote: > They do have a place on small, numbered size fasteners used on > electronics circuit boards. That is the only place I'll accept them. > > Safety wire & pliers are part of my trail tools. Also going with them > is a tool MISF found at a gun show that allows the building of hose > clamps from safety wire. One pound of .040" safety wire could make one > VERY large clamp. A lot larger than I want to carry with me.*//* From m1ckey3 at hotmail.com Fri May 9 20:00:49 2008 From: m1ckey3 at hotmail.com (Hot Wheels) Date: Fri May 9 20:00:43 2008 Subject: [BFix] Never Use Lock Washers-Crank Pulley Question In-Reply-To: <322584.70001.qm@web56611.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <322822.64396.qm@web81107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <322584.70001.qm@web56611.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: sounds like a good tool to have..can u post a link to pic or harbor frieght like tool that u have?MickThis e-mail is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18U.S.C. '' 2510-2521 and is legally privileged. The information contained inthis e-mail is intended only for use of the individual or entity namedabove. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or theemployee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient,please destroy the email after advising by reply that you erroneouslyreceived this. The receipt by anyone other than the designated recipientdoes not waive the attorney-client privilege, nor will it constitute awaiver of the work-product doctrine. Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 18:05:02 -0700From: ntsqd@yahoo.comSubject: Re: [BFix] Never Use Lock Washers-Crank Pulley QuestionTo: mail@broncofix.comCC: They do have a place on small, numbered size fasteners used on electronics circuit boards. That is the only place I'll accept them.Safety wire & pliers are part of my trail tools. Also going with them is a tool MISF found at a gun show that allows the building of hose clamps from safety wire. One pound of .040" safety wire could make one VERY large clamp. A lot larger than I want to carry with me.Jim Lemanek wrote: We don't use them on overhead cranes and structures anymore for the same reason. Don't need a 40-ton crane with loose girders! We do find old ones with broken locks and replace them without. Nylock nuts are pretty popular....Its amazing how many bolts can be broken/missing/loose and a structure still works ok. But at the point it no longer works things get exciting.u100 72 wrote: Hello,Hey don't ever use lock washers on anything--including your lawnmower! If you need a fastener to be secure in a blind bolt hole then use a loc-tite or similiar compound. Just like Jack mentioned the other split and then the torque value placed on the fastener is totally compromised. That goes for bolting two pieces together --flat washers on either side of the pieces-- the bolt goes through and a lock nut either nylon or metal is used. There is a reason no professional race cars or the space shuttle has not lock washers. Matt Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 10:42:46 -0700From: ironbenderii@yahoo.comSubject: Re: [BFix] Crank Pulley QuestionTo: m1ckey3@hotmail.com; mail@broncofix.comCC: Generally speaking I don't like lock washers. They split and leave you with a very loose bolt. That's just me though. How about safety wire? :) Jack www.ironbender.com 96 Radio FlyerHeavy duty full width front & rear axles6 point roll cage71 Bronco Sport408 Strrrrrrrrrrrrrroker435/AtlasFull width 60's3.5" of lift4 link front, full hydro and 14" SAW coiloversELK GROVE, CA! ----- Original Message ----From: Hot Wheels To: bronco fix Sent: Friday, May 9, 2008 10:34:42 AMSubject: [BFix] Crank Pulley Question Hey all, Got a dumb crank pulley question for ya. When Eric N (gotta love that guy..he's everywhere..and always there when u need him) and I assembled my 351w we used steel pulleys and no split washers on the crank pulley. Now that I'm putting the WildHorses hard anodized aluminum ones on I'm asking my self if there should be a lock washers on the crank pulley? thanks for the input,MickThis e-mail is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18U.S.C. '' 2510-2521 and is legally privileged. The information contained inthis e-mail is intended only for use of the individual or entity namedabove. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or theemployee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient,please destroy the email after advising by reply that you erroneouslyreceived this. The receipt by anyone other than the designated recipientdoes not waive the attorney-client privilege, nor will it constitute awaiver of the work-product doctrine. With Windows Live for mobile, your contacts travel with you. Connect on the go. Get Free (PRODUCT) RED? Emoticons, Winks and Display Pics. Check it out! _______________________________________________bfix mailing listbfix@broncofix.comhttp://broncofix.com/mailman/listinfo/bfix_______________________________________________bfix mailing listbfix@broncofix.comhttp://broncofix.com/mailman/listinfo/bfix Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. _________________________________________________________________ Get Free (PRODUCT) RED? Emoticons, Winks and Display Pics. http://joinred.spaces.live.com?ocid=TXT_HMTG_prodredemoticons_052008 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.broncofix.com/pipermail/bfix/attachments/20080510/9e595f9e/attachment.html From M.Bowlin at mchsi.com Fri May 9 20:34:45 2008 From: M.Bowlin at mchsi.com (Mike Bowlin) Date: Fri May 9 20:34:36 2008 Subject: was Re: [BFix] Thinking outload gas mileage and EB.... now whyditch the lock up References: <971878.84644.qm@web81106.mail.mud.yahoo.com><4824B475.40901@prodigy.net> <001e01c8b227$790ad1c0$6401a8c0@Mike> <4824FA32.5070004@prodigy.net> Message-ID: <000801c8b24e$cb2fa670$6401a8c0@Mike> I would go 700 of course 8^) assuming you wanted to "stay ford" I think I would go the 4r70w route, beefier internals and you get lower first gear. If I remember correctly it was computer controlled but baugher (sp)? has a stand alone system for that. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Lougee" <71broncoman@prodigy.net> To: "Mike Bowlin" Cc: Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 6:28 PM Subject: Re: was Re: [BFix] Thinking outload gas mileage and EB.... now whyditch the lock up > Mike, the big advantage is that the tranny itself is much stronger without > the lock-up shaft in there. That feature is provided by a really small > (like 3/4" diameter) where it extends and locks up. It may be different > on the 700R4, couldn't tell you. > > As to why an AOD, why not? Assuming I prefer to avoid giving any of my > hard earned cash to AA, what O/D auto would you run? I have a local > builder who does great work and cuts me pretty awesome deals (the latest > C-4 for the buggy was $400) and it still includes a 1 year guarantee. > Joe > > > Mike Bowlin wrote: >> What is the advantage of loosing the lock up feature on the AOD Joe? The >> lock up on my 700r4 never bothers me or creates problems. And while we >> are at why an AOD behind a 408 in the first place seems to me there are >> way better transmissions to put behind the beef of a stroker. >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Lougee" <71broncoman@prodigy.net> >> Cc: >> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 1:30 PM >> Subject: Re: [BFix] Thinking outload gas mileage and EB.... >> >> >>> I have gotten in the 17+ range for extended distances, but not often. >>> >>> Rig was: >>> 1. MAF SEFI Roller 351W with ZF and D20. >>> 2. 4.10 gears. >>> 3. 35" MT/Rs. >>> 4. Full doors and bikini top. >>> >>> At around 55-60 MPH it would get 18.5-19. The only time I can drive >>> that was on the way to CA, following Clint's Dad's trailer. They >>> couldn't get enough tongue weight on it so had to drive slow to stop the >>> "waggle". >>> >>> At 65-70 it would average around 17.5 on the highway. >>> >>> Around town I would get 15.5 on average, but would get .75-1MPG better >>> with the hard top on. >>> >>> I'm currently building another with a MAF SEFI Roller 408 stroker, built >>> AOD (_without_ the lock-up feature), 4.88 gears and 40" MT/Rs. It'll be >>> interesting to see what it'll get for mileage!! >>> Joe >>> >>> >>> Erik Christensen wrote: >>>> gearing has absolutely nothing to do with mileage in a Bronco. I've >>>> tested extensively, from 3.50 to 4.88, and the only thing that matters >>>> is your cruise speed. 50mph might get 18mpg. I never beat 17, but some >>>> claim to, although set ups vary. Mine was generally with 35" mudders, >>>> 5.5" total lift, and SEFI.various transmissions. >>>> 90-100mph, 10-12mpg. >>>> 70-80 mph 13-14mpg. >>>> 55-65mpg 15-16mpg average >>>> 50-55mph I got 17mpg the one trip (full tank- hwy) I tried it. As far >>>> as I'm concerned, I'm going to run out of time before we run out of >>>> oil, so I drive fast :) >>>> YMMV :) >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> *From:* Jim Lemanek >>>> *To:* mail@broncofix.com >>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 07, 2008 8:21 PM >>>> *Subject:* [BFix] Thinking outload gas mileage and EB.... >>>> >>>> Reading all that we do, it looks like someone with a 5.0 and an OD >>>> tranny like a ZF gets maybe 18 mpg. What gears is that with? >>>> So if I were to keep the 3.50 gears, install a 5.0 and a ZF, any >>>> guess what I could get? >>>> According to gear calcs, an OD at .75 and 34" tires, at 70 mph I >>>> get 18XX rpm at 70 with 3.5 gears and 21XX rpm with 4.11. >>>> What do you think that would do to mpg? Stock 92 mustang 5.0. >>>> Just wondering thoughts. I was gonna ask best mpg setup as an >>>> excercise but quickly realized I would get a discussion on 4bt >>>> probably. Thats a bit outside my motivation based on my current >>>> resources. >>>> --Jim >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> bfix mailing list >>>> bfix@broncofix.com >>>> http://broncofix.com/mailman/listinfo/bfix >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> bfix mailing list >>>> bfix@broncofix.com >>>> http://broncofix.com/mailman/listinfo/bfix >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> bfix mailing list >>> bfix@broncofix.com >>> http://broncofix.com/mailman/listinfo/bfix >>> >>> >>> -- >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.11/1422 - >>> Release Date: 5/8/2008 5:24 PM >>> >>> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > bfix mailing list > bfix@broncofix.com > http://broncofix.com/mailman/listinfo/bfix > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.11/1422 - > Release Date: 5/8/2008 5:24 PM > > From u10072 at hotmail.com Fri May 9 21:08:26 2008 From: u10072 at hotmail.com (u100 72) Date: Fri May 9 21:08:15 2008 Subject: [BFix] Backwards fuel rail? In-Reply-To: <4824B253.6080004@prodigy.net> References: <79CC2CDB196D40D9A6325E24416E4AC2@Speedy> <4824B253.6080004@prodigy.net> Message-ID: The mustang fuel rail with a factory mustang upper and lower with a 1" spacer and the TB on the driver side will clear--that used to be my setup. Big suggestion is to use one of those 90* factory hoses to hook up the vacuum.> Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 14:21:39 -0600> From: 71broncoman@prodigy.net> To: scott.dickerson@wispertel.net> Subject: Re: [BFix] Backwards fuel rail?> CC: mail@broncofix.com> > Scott, you can use the other style of fuel rails to swap the inlet to > another location; however, you'll run into issues where the FPR is, it > WILL NOT fit under the upper plenum. IF you use about a 1" phenolic > spacer it should fit, but otherwise won't. That's why the fuel rails > are different, to allow the FPR clearance, notice it sits beside the TB > in both instances.> Joe> > > Scott Dickerson wrote:> > I have the Mustang style upper manifold (plenum on driver's side, > > throttle body on passenger side), and I currently have the normal > > Mustang style fuel rail (inlet and outlet connections on passenger > > side front). I know some applications (Thunderbirds?) have these > > reversed - fuel inlet/outlet on driver's side).> > > > Anyone know if I can keep this manifold setup and use the fuel rail > > that has the connections on the driver's side? I'm looking at > > re-routing my fuel lines, and this would greatly simplify things. It > > looks like it would clear the manifold if it truly is an exact mirror > > image of my fuel rail, but not sure exactly how the other fuel rails > > are shaped.> > > > Scott> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------> >> > _______________________________________________> > bfix mailing list> > bfix@broncofix.com> > http://broncofix.com/mailman/listinfo/bfix> > > _______________________________________________> bfix mailing list> bfix@broncofix.com> http://broncofix.com/mailman/listinfo/bfix _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live SkyDrive lets you share files with faraway friends. http://www.windowslive.com/skydrive/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_skydrive_052008 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.broncofix.com/pipermail/bfix/attachments/20080509/c822c12f/attachment.html From sfu at roadrunner.com Fri May 9 21:40:34 2008 From: sfu at roadrunner.com (Stephen Urban) Date: Fri May 9 21:40:50 2008 Subject: [BFix] Never Use Lock Washers-Crank Pulley Question In-Reply-To: References: <322822.64396.qm@web81107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <322584.70001.qm@web56611.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <48252742.1060802@roadrunner.com> I don't remember the maker off the top of my head but AFAIK they only sell direct. Steve Urban Semper Fi! SCB#143 EBR#0692 CA4WDC#3576 NRA & CRPA Life Member 29 Palms, CA sfu@roadrunner.com Hot Wheels wrote: > sounds like a good tool to have..can u post a link to pic or harbor > frieght like tool that u have? > > Mick > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 18:05:02 -0700 > From: ntsqd@yahoo.com > Subject: Re: [BFix] Never Use Lock Washers-Crank Pulley Question > To: mail@broncofix.com > CC: > > They do have a place on small, numbered size fasteners used on > electronics circuit boards. That is the only place I'll accept them. > > Safety wire & pliers are part of my trail tools. Also going with > them is a tool MISF found at a gun show that allows the building > of hose clamps from safety wire. One pound of .040" safety wire > could make one VERY large clamp. A lot larger than I want to carry > with me.*//* > From toddz69 at cox.net Fri May 9 22:54:39 2008 From: toddz69 at cox.net (Todd Zuercher) Date: Fri May 9 22:54:52 2008 Subject: [BFix] Never Use Lock Washers-Crank Pulley Question References: <322584.70001.qm@web56611.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <0fe401c8b262$560a64c0$a4e3e344@TODDZ69> TS and his tool: http://www.broncofix.com/gallery/deathvalley08/100_0599 while fixing the flag at the "mailbox" along the Mojave Road last month. http://www.broncofix.com/gallery/deathvalley08/100_0600 Leave it to a bunch of EB owners to fix everything along the way. TZ ----- Original Message ----- From: ts To: bronco fix Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 6:05 PM Subject: Re: [BFix] Never Use Lock Washers-Crank Pulley Question They do have a place on small, numbered size fasteners used on electronics circuit boards. That is the only place I'll accept them. Safety wire & pliers are part of my trail tools. Also going with them is a tool MISF found at a gun show that allows the building of hose clamps from safety wire. One pound of .040" safety wire could make one VERY large clamp. A lot larger than I want to carry with me. Jim Lemanek wrote: We don't use them on overhead cranes and structures anymore for the same reason. Don't need a 40-ton crane with loose girders! We do find old ones with broken locks and replace them without. Nylock nuts are pretty popular....Its amazing how many bolts can be broken/missing/loose and a structure still works ok. But at the point it no longer works things get exciting. u100 72 wrote: Hello, Hey don't ever use lock washers on anything--including your lawnmower! If you need a fastener to be secure in a blind bolt hole then use a loc-tite or similiar compound. Just like Jack mentioned the other split and then the torque value placed on the fastener is totally compromised. That goes for bolting two pieces together --flat washers on either side of the pieces-- the bolt goes through and a lock nut either nylon or metal is used. There is a reason no professional race cars or the space shuttle has not lock washers. Matt ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 10:42:46 -0700 From: ironbenderii@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [BFix] Crank Pulley Question To: m1ckey3@hotmail.com; mail@broncofix.com CC: Generally speaking I don't like lock washers. They split and leave you with a very loose bolt. That's just me though. How about safety wire? :) Jack www.ironbender.com 96 Radio Flyer Heavy duty full width front & rear axles 6 point roll cage 71 Bronco Sport 408 Strrrrrrrrrrrrrroker 435/Atlas Full width 60's 3.5" of lift 4 link front, full hydro and 14" SAW coilovers ELK GROVE, CA! ----- Original Message ---- From: Hot Wheels To: bronco fix Sent: Friday, May 9, 2008 10:34:42 AM Subject: [BFix] Crank Pulley Question Hey all, Got a dumb crank pulley question for ya. When Eric N (gotta love that guy..he's everywhere..and always there when u need him) and I assembled my 351w we used steel pulleys and no split washers on the crank pulley. Now that I'm putting the WildHorses hard anodized aluminum ones on I'm asking my self if there should be a lock washers on the crank pulley? thanks for the input, Mick This e-mail is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. '' 2510-2521 and is legally privileged. 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URL: http://www.broncofix.com/pipermail/bfix/attachments/20080509/078cd300/attachment.html From m1ckey3 at hotmail.com Fri May 9 23:02:29 2008 From: m1ckey3 at hotmail.com (Hot Wheels) Date: Fri May 9 23:02:16 2008 Subject: [BFix] Was Never Use Lock Washers-Crank Pulley Question now learn me something In-Reply-To: <0fe401c8b262$560a64c0$a4e3e344@TODDZ69> References: <322584.70001.qm@web56611.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <0fe401c8b262$560a64c0$a4e3e344@TODDZ69> Message-ID: What is the tool and how do u use it? :oPMickThis e-mail is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18U.S.C. '' 2510-2521 and is legally privileged. The information contained inthis e-mail is intended only for use of the individual or entity namedabove. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or theemployee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient,please destroy the email after advising by reply that you erroneouslyreceived this. The receipt by anyone other than the designated recipientdoes not waive the attorney-client privilege, nor will it constitute awaiver of the work-product doctrine. From: toddz69@cox.netTo: mail@broncofix.comSubject: Re: [BFix] Never Use Lock Washers-Crank Pulley QuestionDate: Fri, 9 May 2008 22:54:39 -0700CC: TS and his tool: http://www.broncofix.com/gallery/deathvalley08/100_0599 while fixing the flag at the "mailbox" along the Mojave Road last month. http://www.broncofix.com/gallery/deathvalley08/100_0600 Leave it to a bunch of EB owners to fix everything along the way. TZ ----- Original Message ----- From: ts To: bronco fix Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 6:05 PM Subject: Re: [BFix] Never Use Lock Washers-Crank Pulley Question They do have a place on small, numbered size fasteners used on electronics circuit boards. That is the only place I'll accept them.Safety wire & pliers are part of my trail tools. Also going with them is a tool MISF found at a gun show that allows the building of hose clamps from safety wire. One pound of .040" safety wire could make one VERY large clamp. A lot larger than I want to carry with me.Jim Lemanek wrote: We don't use them on overhead cranes and structures anymore for the same reason. Don't need a 40-ton crane with loose girders! We do find old ones with broken locks and replace them without. Nylock nuts are pretty popular....Its amazing how many bolts can be broken/missing/loose and a structure still works ok. But at the point it no longer works things get exciting.u100 72 wrote: Hello,Hey don't ever use lock washers on anything--including your lawnmower! If you need a fastener to be secure in a blind bolt hole then use a loc-tite or similiar compound. Just like Jack mentioned the other split and then the torque value placed on the fastener is totally compromised. That goes for bolting two pieces together --flat washers on either side of the pieces-- the bolt goes through and a lock nut either nylon or metal is used. There is a reason no professional race cars or the space shuttle has not lock washers. Matt Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 10:42:46 -0700From: ironbenderii@yahoo.comSubject: Re: [BFix] Crank Pulley QuestionTo: m1ckey3@hotmail.com; mail@broncofix.comCC: Generally speaking I don't like lock washers. They split and leave you with a very loose bolt. That's just me though. How about safety wire? :) Jack www.ironbender.com 96 Radio FlyerHeavy duty full width front & rear axles6 point roll cage71 Bronco Sport408 Strrrrrrrrrrrrrroker435/AtlasFull width 60's3.5" of lift4 link front, full hydro and 14" SAW coiloversELK GROVE, CA! ----- Original Message ----From: Hot Wheels To: bronco fix Sent: Friday, May 9, 2008 10:34:42 AMSubject: [BFix] Crank Pulley Question Hey all, Got a dumb crank pulley question for ya. When Eric N (gotta love that guy..he's everywhere..and always there when u need him) and I assembled my 351w we used steel pulleys and no split washers on the crank pulley. Now that I'm putting the WildHorses hard anodized aluminum ones on I'm asking my self if there should be a lock washers on the crank pulley? thanks for the input,MickThis e-mail is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18U.S.C. '' 2510-2521 and is legally privileged. The information contained inthis e-mail is intended only for use of the individual or entity namedabove. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or theemployee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient,please destroy the email after advising by reply that you erroneouslyreceived this. The receipt by anyone other than the designated recipientdoes not waive the attorney-client privilege, nor will it constitute awaiver of the work-product doctrine. 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URL: http://www.broncofix.com/pipermail/bfix/attachments/20080510/a0cff9b2/attachment.html From toddz69 at cox.net Fri May 9 23:07:16 2008 From: toddz69 at cox.net (Todd Zuercher) Date: Fri May 9 23:07:07 2008 Subject: [BFix] Was Never Use Lock Washers-Crank Pulley Question now learn me something References: <322584.70001.qm@web56611.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <0fe401c8b262$560a64c0$a4e3e344@TODDZ69> Message-ID: <102a01c8b264$191947a0$a4e3e344@TODDZ69> Safety wire pliers. I'll let TS explain how they work. He used it to also make a nice vacuum plug on the Jeep's manifold with some tubing, a stick, and the safety wire. TZ ----- Original Message ----- From: Hot Wheels To: Todd Zuercher ; bronco fix Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 11:02 PM Subject: RE: [BFix] Was Never Use Lock Washers-Crank Pulley Question now learn me something What is the tool and how do u use it? :oP Mick This e-mail is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. '' 2510-2521 and is legally privileged. The information contained in this e-mail is intended only for use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient, please destroy the email after advising by reply that you erroneously received this. The receipt by anyone other than the designated recipient does not waive the attorney-client privilege, nor will it constitute a waiver of the work-product doctrine. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: toddz69@cox.net To: mail@broncofix.com Subject: Re: [BFix] Never Use Lock Washers-Crank Pulley Question Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 22:54:39 -0700 CC: TS and his tool: http://www.broncofix.com/gallery/deathvalley08/100_0599 while fixing the flag at the "mailbox" along the Mojave Road last month. http://www.broncofix.com/gallery/deathvalley08/100_0600 Leave it to a bunch of EB owners to fix everything along the way. TZ ----- Original Message ----- From: ts To: bronco fix Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 6:05 PM Subject: Re: [BFix] Never Use Lock Washers-Crank Pulley Question They do have a place on small, numbered size fasteners used on electronics circuit boards. That is the only place I'll accept them. Safety wire & pliers are part of my trail tools. Also going with them is a tool MISF found at a gun show that allows the building of hose clamps from safety wire. One pound of .040" safety wire could make one VERY large clamp. A lot larger than I want to carry with me. Jim Lemanek wrote: We don't use them on overhead cranes and structures anymore for the same reason. Don't need a 40-ton crane with loose girders! We do find old ones with broken locks and replace them without. Nylock nuts are pretty popular....Its amazing how many bolts can be broken/missing/loose and a structure still works ok. But at the point it no longer works things get exciting. u100 72 wrote: Hello, Hey don't ever use lock washers on anything--including your lawnmower! If you need a fastener to be secure in a blind bolt hole then use a loc-tite or similiar compound. Just like Jack mentioned the other split and then the torque value placed on the fastener is totally compromised. That goes for bolting two pieces together --flat washers on either side of the pieces-- the bolt goes through and a lock nut either nylon or metal is used. There is a reason no professional race cars or the space shuttle has not lock washers. Matt -------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 10:42:46 -0700 From: ironbenderii@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [BFix] Crank Pulley Question To: m1ckey3@hotmail.com; mail@broncofix.com CC: Generally speaking I don't like lock washers. They split and leave you with a very loose bolt. That's just me though. How about safety wire? :) Jack www.ironbender.com 96 Radio Flyer Heavy duty full width front & rear axles 6 point roll cage 71 Bronco Sport 408 Strrrrrrrrrrrrrroker 435/Atlas Full width 60's 3.5" of lift 4 link front, full hydro and 14" SAW coilovers ELK GROVE, CA! ----- Original Message ---- From: Hot Wheels To: bronco fix Sent: Friday, May 9, 2008 10:34:42 AM Subject: [BFix] Crank Pulley Question Hey all, Got a dumb crank pulley question for ya. When Eric N (gotta love that guy..he's everywhere..and always there when u need him) and I assembled my 351w we used steel pulleys and no split washers on the crank pulley. Now that I'm putting the WildHorses hard anodized aluminum ones on I'm asking my self if there should be a lock washers on the crank pulley? thanks for the input, Mick This e-mail is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. '' 2510-2521 and is legally privileged. 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URL: http://www.broncofix.com/pipermail/bfix/attachments/20080509/1204b8e5/attachment.html From sfu at roadrunner.com Fri May 9 23:14:48 2008 From: sfu at roadrunner.com (Stephen Urban) Date: Fri May 9 23:14:40 2008 Subject: [BFix] Was Never Use Lock Washers-Crank Pulley Question now learn me something In-Reply-To: References: <322584.70001.qm@web56611.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <0fe401c8b262$560a64c0$a4e3e344@TODDZ69> Message-ID: <48253D58.8060900@roadrunner.com> The name of the tool is "Clamp Tite" and after some checking it does appear that it is available from other sources then maker direct. Here is a link to one that gives a good explanation of how it works. http://www.bluewater-marine-rv.com/html/clamptite_tool.html Steve Urban Semper Fi! SCB#143 EBR#0692 CA4WDC#3576 NRA & CRPA Life Member 29 Palms, CA sfu@roadrunner.com Hot Wheels wrote: > What is the tool and how do u use it? > > :oP > > Mick > > This e-mail is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 > U.S.C. '' 2510-2521 and is legally privileged. The information > contained in > this e-mail is intended only for use of the individual or entity named > above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the > employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient, > please destroy the email after advising by reply that you erroneously > received this. The receipt by anyone other than the designated recipient > does not waive the attorney-client privilege, nor will it constitute a > waiver of the work-product doctrine. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From: toddz69@cox.net > To: mail@broncofix.com > Subject: Re: [BFix] Never Use Lock Washers-Crank Pulley Question > Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 22:54:39 -0700 > CC: > > TS and his tool: > > http://www.broncofix.com/gallery/deathvalley08/100_0599 > > while fixing the flag at the "mailbox" along the Mojave Road last > month. > > http://www.broncofix.com/gallery/deathvalley08/100_0600 > > Leave it to a bunch of EB owners to fix everything along the way. > > TZ > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* ts > *To:* bronco fix > *Sent:* Friday, May 09, 2008 6:05 PM > *Subject:* Re: [BFix] Never Use Lock Washers-Crank Pulley Question > > They do have a place on small, numbered size fasteners used on > electronics circuit boards. That is the only place I'll accept > them. > > Safety wire & pliers are part of my trail tools. Also going > with them is a tool MISF found at a gun show that allows the > building of hose clamps from safety wire. One pound of .040" > safety wire could make one VERY large clamp. A lot larger than > I want to carry with me. > > */Jim Lemanek /* wrote: > > We don't use them on overhead cranes and structures > anymore for the same reason. Don't need a 40-ton crane > with loose girders! We do find old ones with broken locks > and replace them without. Nylock nuts are pretty > popular....Its amazing how many bolts can be > broken/missing/loose and a structure still works ok. But > at the point it no longer works things get exciting. > > */u100 72 /* wrote: > > Hello, > Hey don't ever use lock washers on anything--including > your lawnmower! If you need a fastener to be secure > in a blind bolt hole then use a loc-tite or similiar > compound. Just like Jack mentioned the other split > and then the torque value placed on the fastener is > totally compromised. That goes for bolting two pieces > together --flat washers on either side of the pieces-- > the bolt goes through and a lock nut either nylon or > metal is used. There is a reason no professional race > cars or the space shuttle has not lock washers. > > Matt > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 10:42:46 -0700 > From: ironbenderii@yahoo.com > Subject: Re: [BFix] Crank Pulley Question > To: m1ckey3@hotmail.com; mail@broncofix.com > CC: > > Generally speaking I don't like lock washers. > They split and leave you with a very loose bolt. > That's just me though. How about safety wire? :) > > Jack > > www.ironbender.com > > > 96 Radio Flyer > Heavy duty full width front & rear axles > 6 point roll cage > > 71 Bronco Sport > 408 Strrrrrrrrrrrrrroker > 435/Atlas > Full width 60's > 3.5" of lift > 4 link front, full hydro and 14" SAW coilovers > ELK GROVE, CA! > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Hot Wheels > To: bronco fix > Sent: Friday, May 9, 2008 10:34:42 AM > Subject: [BFix] Crank Pulley Question > > Hey all, > > Got a dumb crank pulley question for ya. When > Eric N (gotta love that guy..he's everywhere..and > always there when u need him) and I assembled my > 351w we used steel pulleys and no split washers on > the crank pulley. Now that I'm putting the > WildHorses hard anodized aluminum ones on I'm > asking my self if there should be a lock washers > on the crank pulley? > > thanks for the input, > > Mick > > This e-mail is covered by the Electronic > Communications Privacy Act, 18 > U.S.C. '' 2510-2521 and is legally privileged. 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