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Runs great when cold...

Post by BroncBuster73 » Sat Apr 09, 2016 12:16 am

1973 w/ 302. Runs fine for a while, but when gets hot, chokes out and dies. Then feels like battery dying, and wont crank. Let it cool off, starts right up again. Any ideas. I have new carb coming from ebay...
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Post by Stan » Sat Apr 09, 2016 9:15 am

Check your timing - initial and total. Also your engine temperature - not by the temp gage in the instrument cluster.
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Post by BroncBuster73 » Sat Apr 09, 2016 1:58 pm

Thanks, I'll start there. Pretty frustrating!
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Post by BroncBuster73 » Sat Apr 09, 2016 6:17 pm

Curious how timing would cause this? It seems st would be more of a problem when cold? Im not a mechanic, and appreciate any knowledge on this one!
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Post by Stan » Sat Apr 09, 2016 8:14 pm

Too far advanced timing can make an engine run warmer also when an engine is warm to hot and it's slightly seized too far advance can make it harder to turn over.
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Post by BroncBuster73 » Mon Apr 11, 2016 9:55 am

Very interesting- thank you! Im sure there will be more questions! Ive owned this Bronco for 14 years and its been in storage the entire time. The guy I bought it from had it for 12- in storage. Pretty much relegated myself to the fact that everything needs replaced...
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Post by DirtDonk » Thu May 19, 2016 10:44 am

Right on the money with timing. But two other things that can cause it are excessive fuel dumping through the carburetor for some reason, and more common still is maybe a double-issue with your timing and an old tired starter motor not liking the heat.
But timing and other distributor issues are easy and cheap to check for, so that's a good route to take.

And since this has now been more than a month... Anything to report?

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Re: Runs great when cold...

Post by BroncBuster73 » Thu May 30, 2019 4:37 pm

BEEN LONG TIME SINCE I WAS ON HERE! I ENDED UP GETTING A NEW GEAR REDUCTION STARTER AND A HEAT SHIELD FOR IT. SEEMS TO HAVE HELPED THE STARTING. TRIED FINDING A MECHANIC IN KONA WHO COULD CHECK THE TIMING- NOBODY HAD A TIMING LIGHT. OF THEY "CANT PLUG IT IN TO A COMPUTER THEY CANT FIX IT." SO IM ALL OVER YOUTUBE AND FINDING OLD RACERS TO INTERROGATE WITH QUESTIONS...
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Re: Runs great when cold...

Post by DirtDonk » Fri May 31, 2019 7:08 pm

Hey, thanks for the follow up. Good to hear from you again.
Not much action here anyway these days, but it's still good to keep things rolling and the info coming.

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'71 Bronco - 302 4v
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Kayline soft top
Hanson bumpers
Dual batteries, Large 1G alt.

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Re: Runs great when cold...

Post by BroncBuster73 » Fri May 31, 2019 7:34 pm

I am just getting ready to start complete tear down of my Bronco. Not a mechanic, pretty good at figuring stuff out, but never too proud to ask, beg, glean, you name it! I'll probably be on here often! Hard here in Hawaii though, shipping costs really put a dent in what I can afford to do. I lucked our and found a super-solid ride that has basically been in storage for nearly 30yrs.
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Re: Runs great when cold...

Post by DirtDonk » Sat Jun 01, 2019 9:29 am

Nice.
When ordering small parts from the mainland, the Post Office is usually the best. Their Flat-Rate program is fantastic for modest sized auto parts.
You're never going to squeeze a leaf spring pack into one of the boxes(!) but much of the stuff we buy is small and heavy. The weight does not change the cost with Flat-Rate.
You might have known that already, having had to deal with stuff like this. But figured it was worth bringing up.

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'71 Bronco - 302 4v
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Kayline soft top
Hanson bumpers
Dual batteries, Large 1G alt.

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Re: Runs great when cold...

Post by BroncBuster73 » Sat Jun 01, 2019 10:47 am

Yup- Ive become a pro at finding free shipping on ebay. Like you said big parts jam me up. Disc brake coversion kit was $850, shipping was $900!!! $300 gas tank from WildHorses was $450 to ship. Thats why Im aiming to have it finished when I retire in 2033!!!
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U153 body code (cant find info!)

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